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Re:Debian GNU/Hurd 2023 released by goodpoint on Monday June 12, 2023 @10:53AM (#36294635)
> The debate is sort of obsolete really.

Says who?

> * Linux has microkernel-like functionalities like FUSE. You can do filesystems in userspace now.

That has very little to do with real microkernels.

> * The modern approach to High Availability is to have redundant hardware. A single machine being fault tolerant isn't that important anymore.

Not at all. The "modern" approach you are describing is many decades old and single systems are still extremely common.

Re:Debian GNU/Hurd 2023 released by dale_glass on Monday June 12, 2023 @11:57AM (#36295634)
> Says who?

I'm writing my comment, so me, based on observations over time.

> That has very little to do with real microkernels.

It doesn't matter if it's "real" or not. My point was that any selling point a microkernel can come up with can be grafted into a monolithic one.

So one of the usual selling points of a microkernel is that you can run a filesystem in userspace and eg, can allow an user to mount a network drive. Well, no need to switch kernels just for that since they added FUSE to Linux.

As an user I don't care if it's pure, I care that the job gets done.

> Not at all. The "modern" approach you are describing is many decades old and single systems are still extremely common.

Modern compared to the very old idea of the microkernel, I mean. I can see that the idea had a lot of appeal back in the era of rare, room sized computers. Keeping a single machine going is far less important in modern times, where most serious uses try their best to treat any single machine as disposable.

Re:Debian GNU/Hurd 2023 released by JdeBP on Monday June 12, 2023 @12:24PM (#36296095)
Your grasp of history is terrible. The era of rare room-sized computers pre-dates (say) Minix by decades. Basing an argument upon that premise is highly fallacious.