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Re:Paul Graham on Remote Work by WheelsAtLarge on Monday June 12, 2023 @01:42AM (#36288876)
We have to face realities. It's obvious that companies have found that working from home negatively affects productivity. Companies are all about saving money and maximizing productivity. If working from home had been at an even level, or even a bit less, to working from the office then they would had chosen it over having people go into the office since maintaining an office, and all that goes with it, is very expensive.

Yes, some of us tried hard to make it work but like always there was a minority that probably did not and now we all have to pay for it.

At this point, the best we can hope for is a hybrid work schedule. It's not what we want or wish for but, if we are lucky, it's what we can get.

Re:Paul Graham on Remote Work by atraac on Monday June 12, 2023 @03:15AM (#36289545)
> It's obvious that companies have found that working from home negatively affects productivity. Companies are all about saving money and maximizing productivity. If working from home had been at an even level, or even a bit less, to working from the office then they would had chosen it over having people go into the office since maintaining an office, and all that goes with it, is very expensive.

Or middle management forces this on everyone so they can keep pretending they're useful, while most of middle management is absolutely useless. Most managers are there to ask something one person and forward the answer to another person, or gather multiple ones to sum them up in a single sentence. That's literally the job. People who have actual business influence sit at 'the top', people who have technical influence sit near 'the bottom', most people in between are just... there. I know, I worked with middle management heavily in my last corporate gig, those people usually barely even know what we do, they are incapable of making any decision without 'running it through upper management', most of them are not even trained properly to resolve interpersonal issues or work with people in general. Going to the office just so you can sit in your cubicle or on a random desk in the open space and spend whole day on calls with other people is just... pointless.

> It's not what we want or wish for but, if we are lucky, it's what we can get.

This sentence reads like corporate management is your overlord and you're happy if they let you do something. Working in IT you're privileged enough to be able to actually choose who you work for, thinking you're 'lucky' because you can work 2 days from home, is kind of... sad really.

Re:Paul Graham on Remote Work by throwawaysleep on Monday June 12, 2023 @03:53AM (#36289862)
> Companies are all about saving money and maximizing productivity.

I have yet to hear any company even robustly define productivity for tech workers.

Re:Paul Graham on Remote Work by kramerger on Monday June 12, 2023 @04:59AM (#36290386)
Characters per minute (CPM) according to the guy that tried to convert me to VI.

I kid you not.

Re:Paul Graham on Remote Work by kramerger on Monday June 12, 2023 @04:58AM (#36290371)
Assuming your employees are not charlatans, WFH normally means a bit more work for the manager in exchange for somewhat improved productivity.

Maybe your managers are lazy or incompetent?

Re:Paul Graham on Remote Work by KnobbleMcKnees on Monday June 12, 2023 @05:32AM (#36290668)
By realities, do you mean middle management neuroses driven anecdotes, or actually statistics and study? Because the latter shows that it's more productive to wfh