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Re:The Tyranny of Structurelessness (1970) by cortesoft on Sunday June 11, 2023 @11:15PM (#36288043)
The one that really changed how I think about the world was "A Muscular Empathy" by Ta-Nehisi Coates

https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/12/a-muscu...

Re:The Tyranny of Structurelessness (1970) by metacritic12 on Monday June 12, 2023 @12:18AM (#36288408)
I appreciate the thought experiment of considering whether we would truly act differently in difficult circumstances, as most never engage in that level of self-reflection. However, this article seems to beg the question.

Specifically, it starts by assuming that in the face of challenges like being born in poverty, the average person would not overcome them through will or effort alone. As a result, it cultivates empathy for those who fail to transcend their circumstances. It then implies that the solution is changing the environment, not the individual.

But this is circular reasoning. It assumes that it's all the environment, and concludes with it being all the environment.

Re:The Tyranny of Structurelessness (1970) by dv_dt on Monday June 12, 2023 @01:15AM (#36288719)
Looking at the fall of social mobility in the US, I conclude that the average person indeed does not overcome poverty.
Re:The Tyranny of Structurelessness (1970) by watwut on Monday June 12, 2023 @03:27AM (#36289645)
It is not circular reasoning. It is just something you do not agree with.
Re:The Tyranny of Structurelessness (1970) by dwallin on Monday June 12, 2023 @09:00AM (#36292730)
That article is decidedly not about considering whether you would act differently.

What the authors is doing is pointing out is that assuming you would act different is unhelpful. It is far more helpful and interesting to look at a situation, and examine what are all the things that would cause you to to end up in those circumstances despite your best effort. What this does is forces you to overcome the human minds tendencies towards lazy evaluation, to really break down all the forces acting upon the situation these individuals encounter.

This is actually very similar to a technique useful for startups. Assume you have failed some number of years from now. What are some of the reasons you might have failed?

Re:The Tyranny of Structurelessness (1970) by scns on Monday June 12, 2023 @10:20AM (#36293885)
> Specifically, it starts by assuming that in the face of challenges like being born in poverty, the average person would not overcome them through will or effort alone.

I would concur. Three ways out of poverty would be sports, art/music and crime (bad idea). Knowledge, luck and the right mindset and are important too. There is the book Rich Dad Poor Dad about the mindset part.