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Re:Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) by tambourine_man on Sunday June 11, 2023 @06:23PM (#36286342)
If you’re steering a platform, you want people to use your APIs and tools. I don’t see how that’s controversial. Otherwise, what are you even doing?
Re:Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) by shmerl on Sunday June 11, 2023 @06:30PM (#36286388)
It's not about using their APIs and tools. It's about banning competition. That is beyond controversial - it should be illegal.

What they should be doing? Competing on merit. Not pushing lock-in.

Re:Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) by pxue on Sunday June 11, 2023 @06:41PM (#36286457)
Allowing third party also circumnavigates Apple's approval process.

Personally I don't care about giving up choice if it means reduction of spam.

Re:Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) by hospitalJail on Monday June 12, 2023 @08:32AM (#36292388)
On a similar note, I'm happy Reddit is reducing third party apps.

Prevents spammy reddit apps.

Re:Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) by pie420 on Monday June 12, 2023 @12:16PM (#36295950)
spammy reddit apps?
Re:Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) by tambourine_man on Sunday June 11, 2023 @06:37PM (#36286430)
“ What a horror - someone won't be using Apple APIs and tools.”
Re:Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) by code_duck on Sunday June 11, 2023 @10:54PM (#36287931)
It's illegal when a company has a monopoly, but otherwise that's the nature of business. The line of thought that 'apple has a monopoly in iPhone software distribution' never seemed very compelling to me since they don't have a monopoly on mobile phones in general.
Re:Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) by shmerl on Sunday June 11, 2023 @11:19PM (#36288073)
You are using term "monopoly" in a misleading way there. It should be illegal when it's causing harm to competition and it totally does. It doesn't need to be an absolute monopoly to be a problem. The fact that competition law is toothless today to address it speaks badly about how it's applied, not about this being a non issue.

Apple has enough control on the market to cause harm to it by stiffing Web standards for example without being an absolute monopoly.

Re:Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) by JumpCrisscross on Monday June 12, 2023 @12:14AM (#36288379)
> It should be illegal when it's causing harm to competition and it totally does

Banning being mean to your competition, that's a first.

Re:Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) by shmerl on Monday June 12, 2023 @12:22AM (#36288424)
Read what competition law is about. It's not simply about absolute monopoly which is an extreme edge case. It's about harm to competition. Anti-competitive practices totally should be illegal.
Re:Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) by doctor_eval on Monday June 12, 2023 @02:29AM (#36289183)
> Read what competition law is about

OK

> Anti-competitive practices totally should be illegal

So are there competition laws that make it illegal, or do you wish there were? Are you asking for enforcement? Or are you just hoping for change?

Re:Apple Execs on Facebook (2011) by shmerl on Monday June 12, 2023 @10:33AM (#36294162)
Concepts in current competition law are good enough already. Its enforcement is toothless though. So yeah, I'm asking for enforcement.