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Re:Ask HN: Why did major desktop OSes settle on a macOS-like... by jmclnx on Saturday June 10, 2023 @06:13PM (#36275727)
It could be argued MAC OS got that bar from CDE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Desktop_Environment

but my guess it os MAC envy :)

Re:Ask HN: Why did major desktop OSes settle on a macOS-like... by SeanLuke on Saturday June 10, 2023 @06:29PM (#36275872)
Nope. The MacOS Dock is a direct-line descendent of the NeXTstep Dock, which dates from 1988 and predates CDE by five years.
Re:Ask HN: Why did major desktop OSes settle on a macOS-like... by jmclnx on Sunday June 11, 2023 @07:17AM (#36280255)
Yes it is from NeXT, but the the article describes a dock at the bottom of the screen that is centered. NeXT Dock by default was on the left side and vertical, so NeXT is irrelevant per the article. See:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NeXTSTEP_desktop.png

So the first dock I new of as described by the article was CDE. As someone mentioned RisCOS may have preceded it.

Re:Ask HN: Why did major desktop OSes settle on a macOS-like... by SeanLuke on Sunday June 11, 2023 @01:52PM (#36283712)
I have a NeXTstation on my desk, thanks.

The MacOS X dock, since day one, has been able to be pinned vertically on either side or centered horizontally on the bottom, as a user option. It functions identically regardless. The dock was derived straight from the Rhapsody dock, which was just a port of the NeXTSTEP dock.

The RiscOS shelf thing was a simpler device, but it was a year earlier, agreed. But your claim was that MacOS X's dock is derived from CDE, or I guess now RiscOS, and these claims are very highly dubious. Indeed with a good probability NeXT's engineers had not even seen RiscOS. The NeXTSTEP dock, complete with a black hole (later recycling sign) for trash can, was meant to be reminiscent to how people often laid out icons on the Mac Finder Desktop.

Re:Ask HN: Why did major desktop OSes settle on a macOS-like... by jmclnx on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @03:37PM (#36331401)
Yes, MAC OS dock came from NeXT, but by default NeXT did not center it on the bottom, the article said middle-aligned.

The only one I remembered doing that did that by default is CDE, not NeXT. Someone else brought up RiscOS.

By your logic, I could say Xerox Alto was the first if a launcher could be added and centered at the bottom manually :)

Re:Ask HN: Why did major desktop OSes settle on a macOS-like... by Chanticleer on Saturday June 10, 2023 @06:56PM (#36276125)
The RISC OS, specifically the "Arthur" version released in 1987, was the first to have something like the Dock. Look at the screenshot on the Wikipedia page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_RISC_OS