Germans beat Tesla to autonomous L3 driving in the Golden State

Re:Germans beat Tesla to autonomous L3 driving in the Golden... by zaroth on Saturday June 10, 2023 @12:12PM (#36271763)

I maintain that the Mercedes system is “capable of” what it can functionally be deployed to achieve by a user. That’s what “capable of” means. If Mercedes wants to try its hand at a universal L2 system, I wish them the best. This system is in truth not capable of L2 or L3 autonomous driving under almost all typical driving conditions. There is a small geofenced and speed constrained window under which the car will lane-keep and TACC without requiring hands-on-wheel. To me, that’s what we call a “gimmick”.

An autonomous system which cannot even change lanes should not - in my opinion - be classified as L3 Autonomy. Not only is it a gimmick, it’s basically a loophole in the spec.

As an aside, since you mentioned it, I think that describing FSD as “pretty good highway cruise control” is gaslighting.

Describing FSD as dangerously deployed in city driving is merely misinformed. In fact FSD (including the human driver and FSD’s comprehensive attention tracking and alerting) is safer than the average driver in city driving.

https://www.tesla.com/impact

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Re:Germans beat Tesla to autonomous L3 driving in the Golden... by ethanbond on Saturday June 10, 2023 @02:20PM (#36273288)

I’m not sure what you’re even trying to argue here. You disagree with SAE’s designations? Interesting trivia I guess.

Anyway I’m sure Tesla will say it’s Level 3 whenever it’s Level 3. Would’ve thought that was a while back when they marketed, sold, and rolled out “Full Self Driving” on public roads.

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Re:Germans beat Tesla to autonomous L3 driving in the Golden... by qwytw on Saturday June 10, 2023 @06:16PM (#36275752)

Well Mercedes does supposedly offer a L2 system. Why do you say it doesn't?

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