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Re:10 years after Snowden's first leak, what have we learned? by lovelyviking on Saturday June 10, 2023 @09:25AM (#36270259)
>Once you understand someone is delusional, there is no point.

it’s not a delusion. it’s typical russian propaganda tactics. explained here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36270224

Re:10 years after Snowden's first leak, what have we learned? by hayst4ck on Saturday June 10, 2023 @11:02PM (#36277567)
Delusion:

  A false belief or judgment about external reality, held despite 
  incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, occurring especially
  in mental conditions.
I don't doubt the person actually thinks what they say they think. I don't think the experience of spreading propaganda involves self awareness that one is spreading propaganda. I think the nature of propaganda is that it is self propagating without a structure that consciously propagates it.

Delusion in the form of denial is a natural response to grief. "This entity that I am apart of is doing something heinously evil" would naturally cause grief. I experienced grief in regards to Iraq and Afghanistan because I believed my country was doing something evil.

Denial is the first stage of grief, and I think we are seeing denial in the form of delusion, delusion supported by propaganda.