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Re:The Mao-Kissinger Meeting of 1973 by redmorphium on Saturday June 10, 2023 @05:11AM (#36268928)
> Would the US tolerate mexico become a china military ally? Doubtful. One of the unwritten laws.

Exactly. The Ukraine situation would be tantamount to Canada or Mexico entering into a military alliance with Iran -- not acceptable and a direct cause of war.

Re:The Mao-Kissinger Meeting of 1973 by _kbh_ on Saturday June 10, 2023 @06:51AM (#36269406)
> Exactly. The Ukraine situation would be tantamount to Canada or Mexico entering into a military alliance with Iran -- not acceptable and a direct cause of war.

How is it any different to Finland joining NATO? (which they just did).

Re:The Mao-Kissinger Meeting of 1973 by hutzlibu on Saturday June 10, 2023 @07:03AM (#36269470)
The difference is the shared history and language.

(also true for border regions with finnland, but way less overall as finnish is a different language family)

Russian nationalism consideres Kiev the root of the russian culture (but they might change that narrative soon).

Also, they are really not happy about it.

Re:The Mao-Kissinger Meeting of 1973 by _kbh_ on Saturday June 10, 2023 @07:14AM (#36269513)
> The difference is the shared history and language.

I don't think a language matters with a war with NATO.

> Also, they are really not happy about it.

Yet there is no war, shows you that NATO really works as a deterrence to Russia and that it had nothing to do with Ukraine being close to Russia and in NATO.

Re:The Mao-Kissinger Meeting of 1973 by RealityVoid on Saturday June 10, 2023 @10:01AM (#36270527)
Yes but then this very statement directly contradicts the "realpolitik" as pect so loudly touted earlier.

It's not about pragmatism, it's a sort of nationalistic fervor!

Re:The Mao-Kissinger Meeting of 1973 by qwytw on Saturday June 10, 2023 @12:49PM (#36272174)
> Also, they are really not happy about it.

I think they are just inherently unhappy and miserable because they are Russians living in Russia.

Re:The Mao-Kissinger Meeting of 1973 by qwytw on Saturday June 10, 2023 @12:47PM (#36272150)
Ukraine did not enter any military alliances with anyone they just wanted to stop being a puppet/client state of Russia.

Also the only two things Russia has going for it are their energy resources and their nukes. It's a poor second tier/regional power without that (even with the oil/gas/etc. it still has a 2.5x lower GDP than Germany despite an almost 2x higher population).