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Re:France plans to close tax loophole benefiting Airbnb by Retric on Friday June 09, 2023 @12:00PM (#36259850)
How much money is spent is ultimately how much money needs to be collected in taxes in one form or another. There is no way to reduce taxes on X without eliminating some spending or increasing taxes elsewhere. Perhaps you’re fine eliminating GPS to reduce your taxes, but in general people don’t want to shut that down etc.

In the end it’s not a question of obeying the rules it’s a question of individuals or companies writing those rules to favor themselves and others objecting to those rules.

Re:France plans to close tax loophole benefiting Airbnb by robertlagrant on Sunday June 11, 2023 @06:10AM (#36279878)
Well, no, unless you think money is spent efficiently. And also no, in that money is also borrowed, and the currency is also inflated, so the government has more unit currency to spend. If taxes balanced spending, without taxes just being exorbitant personal effort-destroying monsters, then there'd be no debate.

But anyway. That still is irrelevant to this point, which is that writing down rules is the easy bit, and creating value year on year is the hard bit. Blame the people who get free money to write rules that get them money if there are loopholes. Don't blame the people actually working to make them that free money.

Re:France plans to close tax loophole benefiting Airbnb by Retric on Sunday June 11, 2023 @08:36AM (#36280795)
Inflation is a form of taxation, everyone with that currency loses value. Thus when you borrow below the inflation rate the difference is “paid off” by taxing people.

Borrowing isn’t free money, it’s in fact more expensive than taxing people directly.

> That still is irrelevant to this point, which is that writing down rules is the easy bit, and creating value year on year is the hard bit.

Hardly, making money from investments isn’t difficult and has some of the largest tax breaks built in. As someone that’s inherited money I can say theirs nothing inherently virtuous or difficult about it and wow it’s tax free!

But hey I am glad you’re working extra hard so I can lazy around as much as I feel like it.

Re:France plans to close tax loophole benefiting Airbnb by robertlagrant on Sunday June 11, 2023 @01:04PM (#36283182)
> Hardly, making money from investments isn’t difficult

You might be the world's best trader if you're saying that, but you still can't just reach into companies' bank accounts and take their money. You take on the large risk of losing money when you invest.

Re:France plans to close tax loophole benefiting Airbnb by Retric on Sunday June 11, 2023 @01:59PM (#36283811)
Don’t worry, if I lose money I get a tax break! Because you rubes must want to work extra hard to ensure I don’t have to, even if it’s easy enough to make money literal random number generators work.

Also, individual investors don’t generally need to raid companies they can simply sell to other investors. But collectively or with a large enough percentage of the stock we can dissolve the company and sell off its assets. This tends to happen if the stock price falls so far as to make plundering the company look appealing. See: Corporate raiding etc

Re:France plans to close tax loophole benefiting Airbnb by robertlagrant on Monday June 12, 2023 @05:50AM (#36290828)
Of course you get a tax "break" - the rules aren't so obscene that the rule-writers make money on your losses. If you think losing so much money you pay no tax is a good outcome for you, that's fine. Would we all have such a positive attitude to our losses.

Other than that, I'm struggling to make out what you're saying. It once again doesn't seem related to what I'm saying.