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Re:Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark by dataengineer56 on Friday June 09, 2023 @04:44AM (#36255059)
> I own the DocuSign subreddit.

You don't own it, you were just either the first person to create the subreddit or someone who has since becomes the longest-serving moderator on it.

I'll never understand how camping on a subreddit gives anyone the right to say that they "own" it or gives them more power over everyone else indefinitely. It's a big flaw in Reddit, I think all subreddits should be put up for some kind of vote every ~2 years.

Re:Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark by zarzavat on Friday June 09, 2023 @05:06AM (#36255201)
Because that’s how Reddit is designed, and that’s how forums worked before Reddit.

If you don’t like the way a subreddit is run then you can make another one, and if you are sufficiently better then people will switch. Reddit isn’t stack exchange. It’s more like running an open source project.

The problem is that there’s this hostile corporation that sometimes tries to kill their own product every few years overseeing everything.

Re:Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark by dataengineer56 on Friday June 09, 2023 @05:27AM (#36255371)
> If you don’t like the way a subreddit is run then you can make another one, and if you are sufficiently better then people will switch

That's much easier said than done - say you don't like the moderation or content of /r/gaming, how are you going to spread the word about your new subreddit? It won't have as good a name as /r/gaming, it's not a default sub so it's more difficult to find, and you might find that mentions of your subreddit on a powermod blacklist, ensuring you can't even link to it from other subreddits.

How can Reddit have the concept of default subreddits yet allow them to be run by random, unvetted people? For me being default includes some kind of guarantee of quality and approval by Reddit, yet most of these default subreddits are going dark!

Re:Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark by circuit10 on Friday June 09, 2023 @06:00AM (#36255614)
You could also apply this for thinking to domain names and usernames on most sites. I’m not sure if I agree or not, but the same system exists there too if owning names by being the first to claim them
Re:Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark by redog on Friday June 09, 2023 @06:43AM (#36255906)
Bob Smith and Mike Thomas walk int(o) a bar.
Re:Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark by impactt on Friday June 09, 2023 @06:17AM (#36255718)
People did make a new gaming subreddit when they didn’t like r/gaming, it’s called r/games.

There’s also r/gamingnews.

Re:Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark by NoboruWataya on Friday June 09, 2023 @07:33AM (#36256274)
> How can Reddit have the concept of default subreddits yet allow them to be run by random, unvetted people? For me being default includes some kind of guarantee of quality and approval by Reddit, yet most of these default subreddits are going dark!

I think that over time the concept of a default subreddit has been imbued with a significance that it didn't originally have. Basic UI design dictates that if someone shows up at the front page of your link aggregator website they should see some links, so they had to show some subreddits even before the user did anything. I don't think it was originally meant to imply any kind of guarantee or quality or approval by Reddit. But for various reasons, mostly to do with the huge growth in traffic to the Reddit front page (as well as some political meddling by the admins), that is now the impression a lot of people have.

Re:Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark by tapoxi on Friday June 09, 2023 @08:25AM (#36256783)
>How can Reddit have the concept of default subreddits yet allow them to be run by random, unvetted people? For me being default includes some kind of guarantee of quality and approval by Reddit, yet most of these default subreddits are going dark!

Reddit hasn't had default subreddits for a few years. These days you're onboarded onto r/popular and then algorithmically recommended a few you can subscribe to.

Re:Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark by pinguinFromY on Friday June 09, 2023 @05:05AM (#36255194)
By this logic, Americans don't own their land, they were there just in time to conquer it. Or I don't own my home, I was just the first person to buy it.
Re:Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark by sverhagen on Friday June 09, 2023 @05:14AM (#36255266)
Except that ownership of land, in America, on balance, provides a little more security than, um, "owning" a Subreddit. But hey, I don't know much about Reddit, and I've not followed much of the discussion, but has it not come up yet that Reddit could penalize these, um (again), "owners" for their uprising by taking their "ownership" away and opening back up these Subreddits?
Re:Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark by dataengineer56 on Friday June 09, 2023 @05:24AM (#36255356)
Reddit has a sea of moderators who quietly moderate hobby subreddits that they're interested in, and then a small number of power moderators who moderate hundreds of subreddits each (and who have coordinated these blackouts). These powermods spend most of their time on metadrama and have little concern over the quality of their subreddits. I think Reddit should absolutely be stripping away control from these powermods.
Re:Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark by squeaky-clean on Friday June 09, 2023 @06:44AM (#36255912)
> Reddit could penalize these, um (again), "owners" for their uprising by taking their "ownership" away and opening back up these Subreddits?

And the US Government has never done anything similar? Heck, they don't even need to be punishing you to take your land, they can just have plans for a highway that will pass through where your house currently is.

Re:Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark by sverhagen on Friday June 09, 2023 @02:10PM (#36261705)
I didn't say that the ownership of land was absolute or anything, just that the ownership of Subreddits in any real sense seemed non-existent?
Re:Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark by surfpel on Friday June 09, 2023 @05:18AM (#36255300)
Re:Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark by NoboruWataya on Friday June 09, 2023 @07:37AM (#36256321)
Ownership is indeed a fuzzy concept, but the level of protection afforded to your "ownership" of land in America is orders of magnitude greater than that afforded to moderators or subreddits. If you want to draw an analogy to real property, Reddit is the "owner" of the "land" (subject, as always, to the whims of the state) and the moderator has a licence to reside there.
Re:Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark by AndrewKemendo on Friday June 09, 2023 @07:58AM (#36256496)
That’s correct

There is no objective and constant set of universal rules for what defines ownership because it’s a made up concept

Unless you’ve ingested something to burn for calories, or destroyed something then nothing is strictly and forever yours to keep and dispose of as you please.

Re:Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark by paxys on Friday June 09, 2023 @09:36AM (#36257626)
I have a legal deed to my house. If someone else decides to claim it the government (aka men with guns) will show up to restore it to me. Can you say the same about a subreddit?
Re:Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark by kortilla on Friday June 09, 2023 @05:19AM (#36255308)
It’s not any different than people who “own” a Twitter handle. Should those go up for vote every 2 years as well?
Re:Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark by dataengineer56 on Friday June 09, 2023 @05:21AM (#36255329)
Twitter handles are analogous to Reddit usernames and not subreddits (which are arguably analogous to hashtabs).