News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Scientists Discover Ancient 'Lost World' That Rewrites Hi... by mojo74 on Thursday June 08, 2023 @04:29AM (#36238846)
Surely everything scientists discover 'rewrites' our understanding of something? That's the whole point isn't it? Interesting article though.
Re:Scientists Discover Ancient 'Lost World' That Rewrites Hi... by Timon3 on Thursday June 08, 2023 @04:36AM (#36238890)
No, why? A discovery can fit in with your existing models, maybe even be predicted. You discover it, but you don't change your understanding, only expand it.
Re:Scientists Discover Ancient 'Lost World' That Rewrites Hi... by dlkf on Thursday June 08, 2023 @04:36AM (#36238892)
Lots of discoveries are confirmatory. We already believed relativity was true before we observed observing binary pulsars obeying it.
Re:Scientists Discover Ancient 'Lost World' That Rewrites Hi... by stareatgoats on Thursday June 08, 2023 @04:58AM (#36239030)
You're right of course, but some editor thought it too cumbersome (and not so sensational) to write "fills a major gap in our understanding of the early evolution of eukaryotes", so they wrote "history" instead which allows much more room for the imagination.
Re:Scientists Discover Ancient 'Lost World' That Rewrites Hi... by adrinux on Thursday June 08, 2023 @04:57AM (#36239024)
Or not. Link now 404s. Looks like the article was withdrawn.
Re:Scientists Discover Ancient 'Lost World' That Rewrites Hi... by isaacfrond on Thursday June 08, 2023 @05:29AM (#36239246)
works fine for me?
Re:Scientists Discover Ancient 'Lost World' That Rewrites Hi... by bdhcuidbebe on Thursday June 08, 2023 @07:26AM (#36240082)
PEBKAC
Re:Scientists Discover Ancient 'Lost World' That Rewrites Hi... by compressedgas on Thursday June 08, 2023 @05:09AM (#36239122)
This article linked to https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06170-w

> Lost world of complex life and the late rise of the eukaryotic crown

Re:Scientists Discover Ancient 'Lost World' That Rewrites Hi... by adrinux on Thursday June 08, 2023 @05:05PM (#36249054)
Cheers. That looks more interesting than the other headline too.
Re:Scientists Discover Ancient 'Lost World' That Rewrites Hi... by JoeAltmaier on Thursday June 08, 2023 @08:32AM (#36240804)
Some many chances for early life to have hung on, delayed change, stalled evolution. These early organisms hung on for 100's of millions of years, dominating and out-competing later forms until gradually they were in turn out-competed.

Same with Dinosaurs! They dominated for 200M years. But for a chance asteroid we could still be a planet of dinosaurs. No sign of them giving up in the fossil record.

We find other planets with life, likely will be stalled in one of these cul-de-sacs. Our own existance can be explained by observer's paradox - we didn't get stalled which is why we're here which is why we can wonder about these things!

Re:Scientists Discover Ancient 'Lost World' That Rewrites Hi... by borissk on Monday June 19, 2023 @05:58PM (#36396996)
>> No sign of them giving up in the fossil record.

Actually there are signs in the fossil record that dinosaurs weren't doing very well even before the K–Pg extinction.

Re:Scientists Discover Ancient 'Lost World' That Rewrites Hi... by gpvos on Monday June 19, 2023 @10:51AM (#36391724)
Some context: between 1.8 and 0.8 billion (milliard) years ago, the Earth went through a period colloquially called the "Boring Billion", when tectonically and climatically almost nothing happened. Evolutionarily, however, this was the period when multicellularity and sexual reproduction developed. I guess that those developments were really complicated, so it took a lot of time before evolution chanced upon them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boring_Billion

https://youtu.be/0sbwUeTyDb0 (recommended video and series)

Re:Scientists Discover Ancient 'Lost World' That Rewrites Hi... by borissk on Monday June 19, 2023 @05:54PM (#36396958)
I've read somewhere that we're the second wave of multi-cellular organisms that evolved on Earth - coming from worms, fish, tetrapods, etc. But there's evidence of an earlier evolution of multi-cellularity, those poor things dying out and leaving very few fossils.
Re:Scientists Discover Ancient 'Lost World' That Rewrites Hi... by gpvos on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @03:06AM (#36400655)
Maybe you are referring to the Ediacaran period: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ediacaran_biota , which happened a bit later. Something like it can have happened before that as well, but that is more the subject of current research like in the featured article.