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Re:Wildfire Smoke in Northeastern US Visible on Goes East Im... by mfb on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @06:33PM (#36234602)
"no saw mills left in Northern California" - eh? This is just one company's sawmills (they are hiring): https://www.spi-ind.com/Operations/SawmillOperations
Re:Wildfire Smoke in Northeastern US Visible on Goes East Im... by ajross on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @06:52PM (#36234770)
I don't know what that poster was talking about either. Even if CA were to outlaw lumber milling in the north of the state, the rest of the PNW produces enough for the continent already. There's plenty of wood in the deep blue queer tree-hugging west coast. The USA is a huge exporter of the crop, actually.
Re:Wildfire Smoke in Northeastern US Visible on Goes East Im... by olivermarks on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @07:02PM (#36234880)
THE IMPACT OF CALIFORNIA’S CHANGING

ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS ON

TIMBER HARVEST PLANNING COSTS

(2005)

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https:/...

Sierra is processing imported lumber mostly

https://www.spi-ind.com/OurForests/ForestManagement#:~:text=....

Re:Wildfire Smoke in Northeastern US Visible on Goes East Im... by mfb on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @10:20PM (#36236369)
I'd be interested to see the data re: "processing imported lumber mostly". Statewide back in 2016, California timber harvest was 1,572 MMBF; wood processing facilities received 1,483 MMBF; 11.5 MMBF flowed into California from other states; 99.7 MMBF flowed out of California for processing out of state or export according to https://www.bber.umt.edu/pubs/forest/fidacs/CA2016%20Fact%20...
Re:Wildfire Smoke in Northeastern US Visible on Goes East Im... by local_crmdgeon on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @07:17PM (#36235018)
That's true about Oregon and Washington but NOT California. It's also why you don't see wildfires to nearly the same extent in the Northeast or South - we cut our trees.
Re:Wildfire Smoke in Northeastern US Visible on Goes East Im... by dendrite9 on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @09:46PM (#36236143)
All three have different topography and climates from the NE or the South. I don't understand why people think what works in one type of forest will just work in another. The trees are different, the climate is different, the weather is different.

There have been big fires in Oregon and Washington in recent years as well, not just in California. And the Tillamook Burn was big, but that was a long time ago.

Re:Wildfire Smoke in Northeastern US Visible on Goes East Im... by tracerbulletx on Thursday June 08, 2023 @02:59AM (#36238244)
The reason you don't see wildfires is because its like 1000% times wetter east of the Mississippi.
Re:Wildfire Smoke in Northeastern US Visible on Goes East Im... by George83728 on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @08:59PM (#36235811)
> the deep blue queer tree-hugging west coast.

I take it you haven't spent much time out in the sticks of Oregon or Washington.

Re:Wildfire Smoke in Northeastern US Visible on Goes East Im... by kurthr on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @09:05PM (#36235851)
Yeah, and there are lots of smaller ones. Some in Santa Cruz (Big Creek) and Sonoma (Cazadero). It's nice be able to get local lumber and the pricing is often better.

Part of the problem is that people built next to the logging areas since they're so quiet and pretty with relatively good roads. That really makes it hard to do controlled burns. And people moved there for the trees so they don't want you to cut them down.

Re:Wildfire Smoke in Northeastern US Visible on Goes East Im... by RC_ITR on Thursday June 08, 2023 @01:20AM (#36237558)
It's amazing the things people believe with no evidence (and then get massive amounts of upvotes for!).

Look at a map of northern California and you see that the landscape is dominated by a checkerboard pattern of logging/no-logging (the most efficient way to maintain a forest and create firebreaks, even if that wasn't the original intent and people are trying their damndest to break the system).

https://eros.usgs.gov/media-gallery/earthshot/checkerboard-p...

https://www.truckeedonnerlandtrust.org/sierra-nevada-checker...