Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English
by whoisthemachine on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @03:36PM
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Maybe you can safely believe it was all just a nightmare... certainly sounds like one!
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English
by rightbyte on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @03:37PM
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E.g. Excel does that still.
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English
by hulitu on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @03:46PM
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Yes. The best is when you get an Excel file from Japan and the formulas are in Japanese. Who needs encryption or obfuscation.
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English
by COM2323 on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @04:28PM
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Probably someone manipulating with formulas with VBA and improperly using FormulaLocal property. Formulas are stored in language neutral way and it shouldn't be a problem under normal circumstances.
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English
by Kwpolska on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @04:14PM
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No? Formulas are stored in a language-independent way, you should see English formulas in that file.
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English
by zinekeller on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @08:58PM
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The missing part of that story is probably the file is a .xlsm (or even an older .xls with macros) and therefore has VBA scripts, which is not saved in a language-independent way.
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English
by pezezin on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @09:59PM
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But is it Shit-JIS, or are you lucky enough to get UTF-8?
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English
by netsharc on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @04:11PM
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So obnoxious, although apparently in newer versions you can modify what language you want.
I remember seeing the dictionary to translate between German and English function names[1], one time I googled for "Excel German translation" and Google proudly showed the Translate interace pre-filled with "English: excel / German: übertreffen"
[1] https://www.perfectxl.com/excel-glossary/what-is-excel-funct...
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English
by arp242 on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @04:20PM
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The feature itself isn't that crazy – it's even a good thing, especially considering that Excel (and to lesser degree, VBA) were designed for ordinary people and that in the 80s/90s English was less common than it is today.
Where it went wrong is that as soon as you choose a language you were stuck with that. It should have been a display option.
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English
by riffraff on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @03:57PM
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VBA is still localized in many languages, I saw macros in italian.
It's not just VBA keywords either, even excel functions are localized. e.g. this is from microsoft's docs[0]
=CERCA.VERT(B2;C2:E7;3;VERO)
[0] https://support.microsoft.com/it-it/office/cercare-valori-co...
Your programming language reserved keywords changing depending on your selected language was a big facepalm.
Searching for this problem on the web doesn't produce any valid relevant results, so the web has forgotten or maybe the horror has been plastered over.