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Re:Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noref... by 0_____0 on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @02:32PM (#36231287)
My opinion: HN has a particular culture and attitude to discussion that can be grating for non-users.

One example: HNers tend to approach topics as if they have a solid grasp on the context of a matter, and are often negative, hence dang's plea against 'middlebrow dismissal.'

Another example: the common practice of leading rebuttals to a comment with "No. \n" While that's OK here, there are a lot of people who would qualify that as "really fucking annoying."

HN culture leaks onto sites that get linked to by it, and fairly enough, not everybody is down with that.

Re:Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noref... by asmor on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @03:51PM (#36232529)
Oh, I feel it's pretty grating too, as a user.

There's also a pretty hard bias in what is considered political and what is not. When I happen to disclose my identity (which is considered very political, apparently), even if it is topical, I roll dice on having that comment be purged to hell no matter the value of the contribution. Depends a bit on the time of day, even.

Re:Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noref... by linster on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @04:12PM (#36232853)
The other HN tell I’ve started seeing in work chats is excessive italics. I’m not five, I know the gravity of what you’re writing.

For example, often HN users need to scold their readers into a hair-splitting debate around semantics.

The other one I’ve seen is pretend-gaslighting-as-begging-the-question:

“Can we all stop pretending that object-oriented programming is an efficient way to build software?”

Re:Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noref... by jackvalentine on Thursday June 08, 2023 @06:06AM (#36239475)
Yeah you’ve sold me. I’m out of here.
Re:Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noref... by rascul on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @05:13PM (#36233673)
I would say that there's not one single culture here on HN. There are clearly (to me) a vast number of diverse people who act and comment in a very wide range of ways here. To summarize it into one single "culture" seems quite wrong and very stereotypical to me.

Edit: That wasn't intended as an insult, in case it can be taken as one.

Re:Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noref... by 000ooo000 on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @07:06PM (#36234915)
I use that leading "No" as a marker for comments I can safely ignore. I think there's a fair chance the author lacks enough humility for an honest reflection on their position if they think it's appropriate to start their contribution to a discussion with a single paragraph of "No." It's somehow a more grating version of "well ackshually".
Re:Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noref... by zen_1 on Monday June 12, 2023 @09:20AM (#36292962)
No.

;)

I tend to agree with you (finding the leading No\n grating when it's used as a "well actually" replacement) but ime its sometimes used by people from cultural backgrounds where the standard for communication is more direct than what the English-speaking world is used to, and not intended to come across as smug or know-it-all, and I don't mind it as much in those cases.

Re:Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noref... by 000ooo000 on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @12:52AM (#36305523)
That's an interesting angle that I had not considered - cheers for sharing.