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Re:Apple's game porting toolkit is fantastic. Cyberpunk 2077... by emn13 on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @11:17AM (#36227902)
The M2 Max is closer to the 3060 than it is to the 3060 Ti, let alone 3070. And those numbers are quite possibly overly optimistic; workloads essentially never reach peak tflop, and I would not be surprised if practical workloads are better matched to nvidia's architecture than apple's, if only through sheer industry momentum (But that could go either way).

While the perf/watt is impressive, apple is also using 4 times the number of transistors on TSMC's latest process - and the comparison here is samsungs 8nm, I believe. It's not really all that impressive that that huge silicon investment has some results...

It's a tantalizing hint at what might be possible, but as it stands, I'm not really all that impressed, personally.

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Re:Apple's game porting toolkit is fantastic. Cyberpunk 2077... by paulmd on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @01:35PM (#36230207)
I didn't say 3070, that was from the parent "who is impressed by mobile 3070 performance [in a 25W envelope"? And the answer is a lot of people.

I actually added the 3060 bit myself lol

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Re:Apple's game porting toolkit is fantastic. Cyberpunk 2077... by emn13 on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @02:28PM (#36231220)
Sure, no quibbles on that front. Comparisons like this are always best taken with a lot of salt anyhow; they're so different. And it's not like tflops are the great predictor of gaming performance.

Positively: as a device, having such a solid iGPU is pretty much exactly what I've always wanted in this kind of device. Having performance that's PS5 ballpark clearly is enough for a hell of a lot of things. Who really wants something much faster at the cost of much worse battery life?

But the air of incredibly ground-breaking technical greatness that apple manages to weave around its silicon seems a tad overdone. Given the amount of silicon, the process node, and the target tuning - this kind of result seems competitive with rather than outclassing their rivals.

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