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Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by chillbill on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @11:03PM (#36222366)
I think you're missing the point and slightly arguing outside of the main point I initially made, which I think you understand already: It's more about how attention rather than ability of feeling sad or compassion towards animals.
Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by Timon3 on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @04:01AM (#36224178)
Well, I was just replying to your point:

> It's not, but I find it distasteful when people are feeling sad for the crab being boiled, while children are dying of hunger in Yemen because of politicians and their enablers.

The issue why I'm "missing the point" is pretty simple: you say we can only pay attention to one of the two things, but you haven't shown that to be the case. You're just saying that's how it is.

I know you believe that attempting these things sequentially will save more human lives. But until you've shown me that we really can only pay attention to one of the two, sequential attempts will only prolong animal suffering, not shorten human suffering!

Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by LinXitoW on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @03:30PM (#36232222)
I'd bet money that most people that vegan or vegetarian are also far more active about human suffering. It makes sense that someone that believes we should (and can) act to reduce/end suffering would apply that concept universally, rather than selectively.

But just so you realize, your argument sounds EXACTLY like all the right wingers that suddenly care about all the poor americans once immigrants enter the discussion. Most people that make these arguments care about neither, all they care about is not having to actually do anything and still feel moral.