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Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by pfannkuchen on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @06:09PM (#36219724)
Subjectively, as a human, it seems like the pain of being burned is qualitatively a different type of sensation from e.g. being warmed by sunlight.

So the lobster feeling that they should ideally move to cooler water makes sense. Evolutionarily it wouldn’t surprise me if they don’t feel like they are in an emergency situation in the same way that a human would if they are standing in a fire.

Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by Timon3 on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @06:18PM (#36219844)
I think you misunderstood me, or I just wasn't explicit enough. I was talking about humans being burned by natural things other than flames. From my (admittedly limited) experience, being burned by a flame or by a hot surface or a hot liquid isn't qualitatively different. Even sunburn (the aforementioned exposure to sunlight) feels similar if bad enough.
Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by pfannkuchen on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @07:34PM (#36220598)
Got it, yes-- I definitely agree that a sensation can be cross-triggered by conditions other than the evolutionary pressure conditions.

Is there a "dangerous heat" environmental candidate for lobsters that we can speculate could be sensory-cross-triggered by boiling water? Underwater lava?