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Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by fluoridation on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @03:20PM (#36217786)
The plant matter of a fruit is still alive, though. At some point you're drawing an arbitrary line that separates the living things that are okay to eat from those that are not.
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Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by ndsipa_pomu on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @03:38PM (#36218034)
That depends on the definition of "alive". Fruits don't respire which a lot of definitions include. And yes, it's going to be an arbitrary line.
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Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by fluoridation on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @03:43PM (#36218107)
Perhaps not the fruit as a whole, but the individual cells certainly do.
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Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by ndsipa_pomu on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @03:54PM (#36218264)
Going to the cellular complicates matters. That'd probably mean that you'd have to wait for fruit and veg to go mouldy before eating it and then do we consider fungus to be alive?
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Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by fluoridation on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @04:01PM (#36218355)
Like I said, arbitrary lines. The only way to sidestep it completely would be if you could directly synthesize sugars, lipids, and proteins. Then you could sustain people killing-free.
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Re:Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentien... by chr-s on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @04:26PM (#36218654)
It's not whether they're alive but if they can suffer.
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