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Re:Coinbase Sued by SEC for Breaking US Securities Rules by lesuorac on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @08:56AM (#36211915)
Yeah FTX did nothing wrong! #FreeSBF

The problem with crypto was that non-crypto people got into it. It's all fun and games when you use crypto to pay for things like a currency but the second people start hodling because they speculate its value will increase it becomes a security.

While true it would be best if the SEC enforced rules the second they were broken, when have you seen a government agency act fast? It took a literal collapse of FTX for the SEC to get involved.

Re:Coinbase Sued by SEC for Breaking US Securities Rules by matheusmoreira on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @10:06AM (#36212996)
> the second people start hodling because they speculate its value will increase it becomes a security

Huh? So USD is a security now? And so is every other currency in existence?

Re:Coinbase Sued by SEC for Breaking US Securities Rules by lesuorac on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @10:45AM (#36213604)
I'm not aware of a case where 1 USD becomes worth more than 1 USD.
Re:Coinbase Sued by SEC for Breaking US Securities Rules by cableshaft on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @10:56AM (#36213803)
I can keep USD in a bank or money market account and get more USD out of it, just like I can for Solana or Ethereum. I'm currently earning like 3% on one of my accounts. It might not seem that way because we've had zero percent interest rates for so long and banks have had their rates at like 0.01% or something super low, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Also the value of the USD changes relative to other currencies all the time. There was a time where you needed 2 USD to get 1 British pound, but right now it's 1.25 british pounds for a dollar (i.e. the USD has increased in value compared to the british pound). There are people that make serious money just from trading between foreign currencies at the right time.

Re:Coinbase Sued by SEC for Breaking US Securities Rules by lesuorac on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @11:18AM (#36214185)
You mean if you invest your USD into a Money Market Account its able to generate a yield?

How can one sell a Money Market Account for more than they bought one for? The USD isn't generating a yield the Money Market Account is.

> There are people that make serious money just from trading between foreign currencies at the right time.

And if you advertise the GBP as a way for people to invest their USD on the premise that they can sell the GBP for more USD in the end I bet the SEC will not look fondly on you. There are also people that made bank on the stock market; doesn't make it not a security.

Re:Coinbase Sued by SEC for Breaking US Securities Rules by abosherid on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @10:48AM (#36213655)
USD are the last thing I want to speculate will increase in value. History has shown USD lose value over time.
Re:Coinbase Sued by SEC for Breaking US Securities Rules by matheusmoreira on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @07:20PM (#36220477)
There's no doubt it will lose value. The question is whether it will lose value faster than other currencies.