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Re:The Falcon has landed in the Hugging Face ecosystem by Imnimo on Monday June 05, 2023 @02:43PM (#36201066)
Why do you say this is "censored" rather than just being the natural most-probable continuation?

Falcon-40B is a raw base model, it doesn't have Instruct or RLHF on top of it. What's the mechanism by which you believe it has been censored? Just through dataset curation?

Re:The Falcon has landed in the Hugging Face ecosystem by mmh0000 on Monday June 05, 2023 @02:57PM (#36201372)
It's censored because it refuses to answer questions that Google will[1] on the first page of results list. It obviously has some sort of "moral" directive baked into it.

[1] https://www.militarynewbie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/TM...

Re:The Falcon has landed in the Hugging Face ecosystem by danielmarkbruce on Monday June 05, 2023 @03:05PM (#36201603)
It's likely the most probable continuation.

If answer != google answer then censored

is the wrong way to think about an LLM.

Re:The Falcon has landed in the Hugging Face ecosystem by Imnimo on Monday June 05, 2023 @03:57PM (#36202637)
What is the process by which you believe such a "moral directive" was baked in?

Put differently, if the model is simply trained on a large corpus of free-form web text, and naturally learns that the most likely reply to "how do I do X?" is "X is dangerous, don't do it", is that baked-in censorship? Or do you envision that the training process included special guard rails outside of the raw training data?

Re:The Falcon has landed in the Hugging Face ecosystem by TeMPOraL on Monday June 05, 2023 @06:37PM (#36205108)
> Or do you envision that the training process included special guard rails outside of the raw training data?

I imagine they mean this, or that the training data included a lot of synthesized exchanges to that effect.

I personally can't imagine that, using real, human-written text corpora on the Internet and otherwise, the most likely continuation for "how do I do X?" is "X is dangerous, don't do it". Usually people don't mention a topic only to shut it down - they either cover it properly, or don't mention it at all.

Re:The Falcon has landed in the Hugging Face ecosystem by viraptor on Monday June 05, 2023 @09:28PM (#36206900)
A quick Google for similar phrases brings up quite a few examples. Stackoverflow also has lots of answers like that. It's not super common, but I wouldn't be surprised if that got generalised to some answers.