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Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by colesantiago on Monday June 05, 2023 @11:48AM (#36198044)
This is brilliant.

I really want crypto to fade away out of existence and into irrelevance, FedNow is coming soon and we don't need crypto or shady crypto exchanges like Binance.

Glad to see the US taking action.

Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by zarzavat on Monday June 05, 2023 @11:58AM (#36198242)
95% of people don’t have a bank account in the US.
Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by dgfitz on Monday June 05, 2023 @12:40PM (#36198975)
and 77.34% of statistics are made up on the spot.

https://www.federalreserve.gov/publications/2019-economic-we...

6%

Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by JumpCrisscross on Monday June 05, 2023 @01:46PM (#36200077)
Parsed generously, 94% of Americans is about 300mm people. That's around 4% of the human population. (It's a nonsense argument nonetheless: it's not America's job to bank the world.)
Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by dgfitz on Monday June 05, 2023 @02:40PM (#36201009)
I commend you taking a generous view of that, as I was unable to with a straight face. Agree with your second comment.
Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by zarzavat on Monday June 05, 2023 @10:27PM (#36207301)
GP said essentially that they hoped crypto would fade away because FedNow is coming and will make it irrelevant.

My point was that the vast majority of people don’t have a US bank account and so FedNow is in fact irrelevant, except to the 5% of people who can access it.

I didn’t expect the parse with the comma inserted before “in the US”, because it’s obviously absurd to say that only 5% of Americans have a US bank account.

Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by misnome on Monday June 05, 2023 @12:04PM (#36198339)
100% of people don’t have a venusian bank account in the US
Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by lern_too_spel on Monday June 05, 2023 @01:47PM (#36200100)
That sentence is not saying the same thing. The equivalent would be 100% of people don't have a bank account on Venus.
Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by nickpinkston on Monday June 05, 2023 @12:50PM (#36199140)
Most Americans have a bank account:

"According to the report, 81% of adult Americans are fully banked, 13% are underbanked, and 6% are unbanked. The share of Americans with each banking status in 2021 remained almost constant from 2020."

https://usafacts.org/articles/who-is-the-least-likely-to-hav...

Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by mtlmtlmtlmtl on Monday June 05, 2023 @01:42PM (#36200001)
What GP is saying is that most people in the world do not have an account located in the US specifically. I seriously doubt they're saying 95% of Americans don't have a bank account, which would be absurd.
Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by nickpinkston on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @02:32PM (#36217141)
Yea, I was anchoring on the article that was US focused.
Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by Arcuru on Monday June 05, 2023 @12:58PM (#36199273)
That accounts for the 5% of humans who live in the US, how about the 95% of humans who don't?
Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by misnome on Monday June 05, 2023 @01:23PM (#36199661)
If you read the thread to which you are replying, it’s about the US.
Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by mtlmtlmtlmtl on Monday June 05, 2023 @01:51PM (#36200158)
Why would anyone suggest only 5% of Americans have bank accounts? How is it possible to believe that and still know English and go to HN, do you think?
Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by colecut on Monday June 05, 2023 @04:27PM (#36203090)
The bank accounts are about the U.S., not the people.
Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by infamouscow on Monday June 05, 2023 @12:14PM (#36198481)
It's brilliant if you're a racist bigot that has no concept of the struggles of the unbanked systematically oppressed by the system you champion.
Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by gopuck16 on Monday June 05, 2023 @01:06PM (#36199409)
That your feeling without specifying any factual data
Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by ipaddr on Monday June 05, 2023 @01:23PM (#36199656)
Not having a bank account is a race issue? People who are not white cannot get a bank account? Poor people can't get a bank account and all non-white are poor therefore bank accounts are racist?

What is your message?

Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by misnome on Monday June 05, 2023 @01:27PM (#36199723)
I don’t know specifically what they intend their message to be but I would 100% bet it involves something they would describe as “Globalist Bankers”.
Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by tick_tock_tick on Monday June 05, 2023 @02:49PM (#36201163)
It's the same argument they make with voter ID laws; non whites are too stupid to successfully get an ID / open a bank account / etc. It's some of the most racist rhetoric I've ever seen but somehow it's pitched as "anti-racist".
Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by Sohcahtoa82 on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @12:08PM (#36214927)
In 2011, Alabama passed a strict voter ID law.

Then, in 2015, Alabama closed DMVs in predominantly black counties, making it hard for black people to get IDs. It took a federal probe to force Alabama to reverse the decision to close the DMVs.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/12/12/16767426/...

Personally, I think we'd be better off with the vote-by-mail system that Oregon and Washington use.

Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by Detrytus on Monday June 05, 2023 @05:06PM (#36203572)
yes, it is a common theme among the "woke": Black people score lower on school math tests, therefore math is racist.
Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by misnome on Monday June 05, 2023 @01:25PM (#36199691)
Yeah! Casinos are never racist!
Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by alphanullmeric on Monday June 05, 2023 @12:43PM (#36199036)
CBDCs are exactly why crypto will always be around. Spying on other people’s money is not a basic human right.
Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by bcrl on Monday June 05, 2023 @01:24PM (#36199685)
Eh? Every single bitcoin transaction is publicly visible to anyone that looks for it in a way that bank account transactions are not. Correlating transactions with an individual is not exactly difficult if you're determined. It's downright easy if you get the other party to accept a payment from you.
Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by angry_albatross on Monday June 05, 2023 @01:27PM (#36199737)
Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by JumpCrisscross on Monday June 05, 2023 @01:44PM (#36200056)
> CBDCs are exactly why crypto will always be around

CBDCs aren't on the table in America anymore. They were a stupid workaround to our political opposition to postal banking.

Re:SEC Sues Binance and CEO Zhao for Breaking US Securities ... by KptMarchewa on Monday June 05, 2023 @05:20PM (#36203817)
CBDC won't have to do anything with "blockchain" and will be a regular relational database.