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Re:The Rust I wanted had no future by mike_hearn on Monday June 05, 2023 @06:33AM (#36194549)
Yes, but are there any effects systems in use outside of maybe Haskell? Effects seem mostly to be stuck in the research lab and have been for a long time.
Re:The Rust I wanted had no future by hayley-patton on Monday June 05, 2023 @06:37AM (#36194566)
I don't mean "effects" in the sense where you can have effect handlers which get delimited continuations and all; it'd just mark what could happen (like checked exceptions). But I can't think of any languages with that and not effect handlers; Koka, Eff, and Unison come to mind for effects, though their practical-ness may vary.
Re:The Rust I wanted had no future by zozbot234 on Monday June 05, 2023 @07:09AM (#36194761)
Do you really need effect handlers as a separate feature once you have async/await? It seems like you could easily encode one with the other.
Re:The Rust I wanted had no future by hayley-patton on Monday June 05, 2023 @09:48AM (#36196159)
An effect handler is allowed to invoke a continuation multiple times; I believe this is not possible with async/await.
Re:The Rust I wanted had no future by ohgodplsno on Monday June 05, 2023 @07:13AM (#36194792)
Verse has effects, which by virtue of exposing it to the entire Fortnite community probably makes it a bigger language than Haskell in terms of user counts.

https://dev.epicgames.com/documentation/en-us/uefn/specifier...

converges/diverges, computes, varies, reads, writes, transacts, no_rollback.