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Re:Is your startup idea already taken? by untog on Tuesday February 21, 2012 @03:51PM (#3618035)
Perhaps you should start off your pitch with "Why no one actually uses X."

Yes and no. I'd maybe try to rephrase that to something along the lines of "I've looked through their site and I haven't seen any evidence of them attracting users". Dismissing a rival with "meh, no-one uses it!" makes it sound like you haven't really considered the competition.

Re:Is your startup idea already taken? by scott_s on Tuesday February 21, 2012 @04:14PM (#3618115)
Your evidence that "no one uses X" is point number two. It is support for your first claim, which should be upfront. And the fact that you have a list of damned good reasons why no one uses X should help them get on board with your point - that is, after you've made that point, they should be thinking "Yeah, I can see why no one would use X." Then you present the evidence that no one uses X.

And if you don't have a list of damned good reasons why no one uses X, then they shouldn't give you any money.

Re:Is your startup idea already taken? by DannyPage on Tuesday February 21, 2012 @04:16PM (#3618126)
True, what I wrote initially would seem arrogant in a vacuum. In a fuller discussion, I would cite their main actionable metrics that I've kept track of and show that there is no organic growth occurring. Then I would show what we are doing to make that actionable metric grow.

BTW, I don't waste too much time concerning their success (just a once a month check) especially since my company's success is most important. No one asks "Isn't your company just like X" when you are winning :)

Re:Is your startup idea already taken? by wtvanhest on Tuesday February 21, 2012 @11:46PM (#3619485)
I went to your site Knackeo. I have a tough time seeing what you are doing by going to the site and clicking all workable buttons. I'm sure investors did that too before meeting with you.

A really simple graphical explanation about who pays what might work? I really don't know, but what does peak my interest is that it seems like it will be a variety of crazy stuff rather than another lesson in math.

I liked the comment that you should start your pitch with what others are doing and how you will address a different market or beat them in their own market.

This stuff is obviously really tricky, but I feel like you have something you just are not showing.