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Re:Ads on paulgraham.com -- Check the bottom of any PG essay by ph0rque on Monday July 23, 2007 @03:45PM (#36162)
So what kind of information can the adpinion guys extract if someone downvotes every single ad?
Re:Ads on paulgraham.com -- Check the bottom of any PG essay by lukexi on Monday July 23, 2007 @05:10PM (#36192)
Hi ph0rque, the theory is that even the most ardent of ad-downvoters would eventually like an ad enough to not down it (or, that they would get bored of compulsive negativity, and start being more selective). That one ad would be an extremely valuable piece of information. -Luke
Re:Ads on paulgraham.com -- Check the bottom of any PG essay by ivankirigin on Monday July 23, 2007 @09:27PM (#36245)
Sorry, but that doesn't make sense. The haters won't down-vote. They just won't click at all.
Re:Ads on paulgraham.com -- Check the bottom of any PG essay by vegashacker on Monday July 23, 2007 @11:04PM (#36264)
That's still a piece of information though, especially if the same user has actively down-voted other items.
Re:Ads on paulgraham.com -- Check the bottom of any PG essay by ivankirigin on Tuesday July 24, 2007 @09:41AM (#36343)
There is no useful information gained if people never touch the system. Clearly non-downvoting means something for people who periodically downvote. But the way I plan to use the service is ... not at all.
Re:Ads on paulgraham.com -- Check the bottom of any PG essay by vegashacker on Wednesday July 25, 2007 @12:18PM (#36602)
I see, I miss-read what you wrote. I had thought we were still talking about "ardent down-voters" Yes, in order for them to glean any information from a particular user there will have to be some clicks. And indeed, the most common way that a user uses this system might very well be "not at all".
Re:Ads on paulgraham.com -- Check the bottom of any PG essay by rms on Monday July 23, 2007 @08:12PM (#36230)
Hi Luke, are you with Adpinion? Can I advertise for http://www.getkratom.com on Adpinion?
Re:Ads on paulgraham.com -- Check the bottom of any PG essay by miannini on Friday July 27, 2007 @05:52PM (#37192)
Contact Luke at [email protected]
Re:Ads on paulgraham.com -- Check the bottom of any PG essay by eposts on Monday July 23, 2007 @03:48PM (#36164)
Get rid of "any" kind of ad from that page coz its annoying the hell out of visitor(s) :).
Re:Ads on paulgraham.com -- Check the bottom of any PG essay by pg on Monday July 23, 2007 @03:59PM (#36169)
Actually that's what the system would do. Why expend bandwidth annoying people?
Re:Ads on paulgraham.com -- Check the bottom of any PG essay by ph0rque on Monday July 23, 2007 @04:29PM (#36175)
Well, we know what we have to do, now that you've given away the secret :~).
Re:Ads on paulgraham.com -- Check the bottom of any PG essay by eposts on Monday July 23, 2007 @04:33PM (#36177)
This will be an interesting experiment to watch. Its taking the reddit/digg style voting to the world of internet ads and hoping that users will tell what kind of ads they want to see. If every user is like me, it'll mean no ads... maybe everyone is not like me.
Re:Ads on paulgraham.com -- Check the bottom of any PG essay by myoung8 on Monday July 23, 2007 @10:46PM (#36257)
Actually, most people aren't. Apparently, most people actually LIKE ads--so long as they are relevant.

I don't know about you guys, but I actually enjoy looking through the ads in Wired. Usually they're catchy and they are almost always relevant for me. I can't say that about most ads on the web, and certainly not for TV (I will never buy a truck in my life so stop 'effin showing me ads for them!) Obviously the problem with these last two mediums is that they don't have enough information about me.

Honestly, I would submit my personal tastes/preference to some sort of central advertising database which authorized companies could then plug into. Right now, it would make a lot of sense if Google hosted that database, but it should really be something open so that any advertiser can use it.

Re:Ads on paulgraham.com -- Check the bottom of any PG essay by myoung8 on Monday July 23, 2007 @10:48PM (#36259)
Edit: so long as they are relevant and done well. Despite, for example, my desire to buy a Wii, I would not tolerate a "hit the monkey and win a Wii" ad.