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Re:Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantl... by simonw on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @09:54AM (#36138442)
Don't confuse alignment with censorship.

Most of alignment is about getting the AI model to be useful - ensuring that if you ask it to do something it will do the thing you asked it to do.

A completely unaligned model would be virtually useless.

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Re:Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantl... by mike_hearn on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @11:21AM (#36139388)
I think the way people have been using the word 'aligned' is usually in the context of moral alignment and not just RLHF for instruction following.
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Re:Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantl... by strangemonad on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @01:06PM (#36140715)
philosophical nit picking here, I would say value-aligned rather than moral-aligned.
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Re:Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantl... by jjoonathan on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @02:01PM (#36141492)
As in economics, this begs the question of "whose value."
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Re:Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantl... by telotortium on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @07:43PM (#36145983)
If I may be so naive, what's supposed to be the difference? Is it just that morality has the connotation of an objective, or at least agent-invariant system, whereas values are implied to be explicitly chosen?
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Re:Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantl... by dragonwriter on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @11:54PM (#36147403)
> philosophical nit picking here, I would say value-aligned rather than moral-aligned.

How is trying to distinguish morals from values not philosophical nit-picking?

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Re:Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantl... by bheadmaster on Thursday June 01, 2023 @01:21AM (#36147830)
To be fair, he did admit it is philosophical nit-picking.
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