Why would I be sure to define it in such a way that I can't be labeled as such in any circumstance? I'm not afraid to work against my own self interest in the name of a better situation for the collective. What happened in Ottawa as a bunch of self-centered ego maniacs with extreme views terrorizing the people of that city. Never mind the bank accounts: they should have been jailed for life.

Up there you disagree with the (part of) collective and you show no intention to work against your self-interest or otherwise to work in the name of better situation of the (part of) collective.

Thank you for thoughtful and thought-provoking discussion with you.