Re:Turds in AI Generated Art
by tsunamifury on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @03:57PM
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This is the a false conclusion so many seem to be falling for. YOU couldn't write or do art like a professional before, and now you can do 90% of it with some caveats. That's a major headwind that pros will be trying to deny understandably. When the digital camera then iPhone came and out obliterated the vast majority of professional photography, pros nitpicked in forums like this till kingdom come, but it didn't change anything.
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If I draw a picture of a fantasy-world bedroom, it might not be very detailed or well-shaped, because I am emphatically not a professional illustrator. But I can tell you what every single object is supposed to be, why I thought it belonged in a fantasy-world bedroom, and why I put it in its particular spot in that bedroom.
>but I can tell you what every single object is supposed to be, why I thought it belonged in a fantasy-world bedroom, and why I put it in its particular spot in that bedroom.
I mean post ad hoc the machine could do that too. In fact, that is the only way your brain can explain anything.
Huh? Are you saying human artists don't consider composition while creating their works?
Not always, not every time.
I've created music and art in a visual medium and there's a lot of post hoc justification that your brain likes to present
Re:Turds in AI Generated Art
by ImPostingOnHN on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @04:54PM
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sure, and AI could draw a better picture without those things, and most people would prefer the better illustration to the conceptually flawless composition
If I were to draw a fantasy bedroom there’s a pretty good chance some parts of the room would be squiggly doodles meant to be more interpreted by the viewers imagination rather than a specific object I had in mind.
(I’m also Not an illustrator)
The problem is that customers did not necessarily appreciate the difference between their amateur creations and the professionals' enough to pay for it. I feel like it is going to be a rerun of the decimation of the professional photography market with designers and illustrators.
Re:Turds in AI Generated Art
by tsunamifury on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @06:02PM
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I agree entirely, and I weep for it, I was even laid off myself. But I'm not going to waste any more time than that and am going to get onboard with where things are going.
Which creative field did you work in, photography?
Re:Turds in AI Generated Art
by tsunamifury on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @06:15PM
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Interaction Designer @ Google, pretty senior too
And was a photographer long ago, double luck huh.
I think we're comparing apples (heh) and oranges a bit here. iPhone cameras are essentially the same thing as digital camera and now anyone can use them. Maybe amateurs are messing up their lighting or exposure or composition or whatever, but they are doing the same thing a professional photographer once did. It's also pretty difficult to tell professional photography from amateur stuff.
AI isn't drawing like a human artist does. It's a completely distinct process from someone putting marks on a page. The caveats, or turds as the author of the original article put them, are pretty difficult to fix without having actual training and skills in art, and acquiring those skills is a lot harder than learning to take photos.