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Re:Molly White Tracks Crypto Scams. It’s Going Just Great by miracle2k on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @03:47PM (#36129665)
> Crypto has always been a subset of tech's goals, and is even framed that way 99% of the time in presentations/etc.

GP is simply saying that making a permissionless financial network a key element of the way value is exchanged across the world is a much more ambitious goal than selling books online.

Re:Molly White Tracks Crypto Scams. It’s Going Just Great by majormajor on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @04:02PM (#36129900)
> GP is simply saying that making a permissionless financial network a key element of the way value is exchanged across the world is a much more ambitious goal than selling books online.

They said:

> And that's in a space whose biggest ambition was to replace catalogue shopping and how hotel reservations are made.

Which is an amazingly uncharitable interpretation of "the whole tech industry" in the 90s when the internet was being created, ask people at the time to give their best-foot-forward description of ambitions and you'd probably get something much more like "make all the world's knowledge available to everyone" and "eliminate the tyranny of distance to let human relationships flourish"

Vs, you know, "replace banks and let people transfer money instantly" or "create a new currency" - which sounds an AWFUL lot like a subset of that "connect everything together" original tech goal. Hell, "create a new currency" was even a goal for a lot of players back then, too!

(Interestingly they both share a level of idealism in terms of transcending traditional national borders, whether or not that is practical/achievable/or was achieved fully.)

Re:Molly White Tracks Crypto Scams. It’s Going Just Great by wheelie_boy on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @04:20PM (#36130165)
> "create a new currency"

Ah yes, Flooz and Beenz. So silly, but at least they didn't use a small country's worth of electricity.

Re:Molly White Tracks Crypto Scams. It’s Going Just Great by tptacek on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @03:51PM (#36129722)
Amazon's goals aren't "selling books online", and that's just Amazon.
Re:Molly White Tracks Crypto Scams. It’s Going Just Great by viksit on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @03:54PM (#36129775)
that’s where they started. the permissionless financial system is where this starts..
Re:Molly White Tracks Crypto Scams. It’s Going Just Great by EA-3167 on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @04:10PM (#36130008)
How long did it take Amazon to move past its initial goals and start to deliver on a broader set of principles?

How long has Crypto remained a bottomless pit of fraud and greed?

Re:Molly White Tracks Crypto Scams. It’s Going Just Great by viksit on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @08:04PM (#36132881)
to maintain a standard of discussion here because it feels like hn bias just hit: there are more applications of a distributed database at 400ms latency than fraud. falling into ad hominem attacks feels immature.
Re:Molly White Tracks Crypto Scams. It’s Going Just Great by p4bl0 on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @02:58AM (#36135327)
"Distributed database" is not equivalent to "blockchain".
Re:Molly White Tracks Crypto Scams. It’s Going Just Great by viksit on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @02:55PM (#36142411)
no but the reverse is.