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Re:A 'natural death' may be preferable for many than endurin... by jdietrich on Monday May 29, 2023 @10:43PM (#36120602)
>Agree completely - in that instance the individual should have some kind of DNR bracelet.

Even if you wear a DNR bracelet, there's a good chance that it'll be ignored. Bystanders often don't know to look for them and have no legal obligation to abide by them. Healthcare professionals routinely err on the side of caution if there is any doubt about the validity of a DNR order, in no small part because wrongful prolongation of life lawsuits are generally much less costly than wrongful death lawsuits.

Advance healthcare planning is a much more complicated business than simply wearing a bracelet. We need a broad societal conversation about end-of-life care, not least because DNRs are often misunderstood by both patients and healthcare professionals.

Re:A 'natural death' may be preferable for many than endurin... by boringg on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @09:14AM (#36124480)
I'm offering a simple first step to a complex situation. I don't think the default option is let's not help older people and resort to comfort.
Re:A 'natural death' may be preferable for many than endurin... by Spivak on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @11:53AM (#36126328)
A fun new one I experienced recently when having a minor surgery was having to sign paperwork saying I consented to the doctor ignoring any DNRs, when I asked about it they said it was because if something happened to me while I was in their care it would make their numbers look bad.

And oh man that's a no win if I've ever seen one.