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Re:Paper Money Diehards Refuse to Fold by theturtletalks on Monday May 29, 2023 @09:31PM (#36120204)
Deputizing payment processors to curb money laundering sounds good on paper. The issue is that the payment processors ban and deny processing for random, computer generated reasons. Their decision is unappealable even if you’re in the right and are selling perfectly legal items.

Normally, if the government suspects you of money laundering, they build a case and bring it to court. The burden of proof is on them to proof you’re laundering money or selling illegal goods. Here, they found a way to not only lessen their work load by deputizing private companies, but also affectively gave payment processors a moat and impunity to decide what people can and cannot sell everywhere.

Visa and MC are well within their rights to deny any person for any reason, but the government should have their own processing network. My gut is saying this will never happen since Visa/MC would lobby heavily against it. Even if one is created, expect it to be neutered.

Re:Paper Money Diehards Refuse to Fold by milsorgen on Monday May 29, 2023 @10:17PM (#36120465)
>the government should have their own processing network

Not government per se but isn't this what FedNow is all about?

https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/banking/fednow

Re:Paper Money Diehards Refuse to Fold by kelnos on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @04:34AM (#36122476)
> Visa and MC are well within their rights to deny any person for any reason

True, but as payment networks take on a more utility-like place in society (I'd argue they're already there), we shouldn't allow them to discriminate for arbitrary reasons.