Re:A 'natural death' may be preferable for many than endurin...
by basisword on Monday May 29, 2023 @04:35PM
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What use is this information though to someone performing CPR? It’s important in the sense that maybe better techniques can be developed but if I need CPR it doesn’t matter one bit if the person doing it knows it’s success rate. In fact probably better they don’t know. If they know the odds are low perhaps they’ll give up too soon.
Re:A 'natural death' may be preferable for many than endurin...
by WJW on Monday May 29, 2023 @04:38PM
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I could see an argument that knowing the statistics could help the CPR-giver in the aftermath. After all the patient is very likely to die and if the CPR-giver was under the impression that it is likely to work, then they may feel a lot of unwarranted guilt.
Re:A 'natural death' may be preferable for many than endurin...
by dragonwriter on Monday May 29, 2023 @07:18PM
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> What use is this information though to someone performing CPR?
Possibly quite important to their psychological condition afterwards, given what the very low effectiveness means.
Re:A 'natural death' may be preferable for many than endurin...
by Sohcahtoa82 on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @12:45PM
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To absolve themselves of guilt and self-doubt.
Someone who doesn't know that CPR has a very low success rate might perform CPR on someone that ends up not surviving and feeling guilty and full of self-doubt, thinking they performed CPR incorrectly.
Re:A 'natural death' may be preferable for many than endurin...
by lazyasciiart on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @04:24PM
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There was a Reddit thread from someone who had spent years feeling that exact guilt for not saving her grandma https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/102k...
Re:A 'natural death' may be preferable for many than endurin...
by querez on Monday May 29, 2023 @04:32PM
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When I was thought it, it was clearly pointed out to me that chance of survival is ~5%, but increases significantly if an AED can be used in time. I've also been told about the rib cracking etc. Just as a counterpoint.
Re:A 'natural death' may be preferable for many than endurin...
by yarg on Monday May 29, 2023 @04:54PM
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I know a dude who's a very competent ambo, he saw a man collapse and immediately rebooted his heart with a single perfect strike to the chest.
Beyond the prior state of the patient, technique can actually matter as well - but the fact is that the vast majority of people are never going to develop skills beyond "ah ah ah ah staying alive".
Re:A 'natural death' may be preferable for many than endurin...
by BloominOnion on Monday May 29, 2023 @06:37PM
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Sounds like he administered a precordial thump.
Re:A 'natural death' may be preferable for many than endurin...
by throwaway173738 on Monday May 29, 2023 @06:40PM
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I was taught it was not terribly effective except in case of lightning strike. We weren’t taught how to do it in Mountaineering-Oriented First Aid because of that, and because the leadership, wound care, trauma, and specific conditions aspects of the course took almost the whole three days.
Re:A 'natural death' may be preferable for many than endurin...
by duskwuff on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @02:17PM
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CPR is particularly unlikely to be life-saving in a wilderness scenario (like mountaineering) because professional medical care may be many hours away. Even if you can get a patient's heart restarted with CPR, they may not survive to reach a hospital.
When I was first taught CPR in school, it was taught without any reference to the survival statistics. The impression I got was that it was very effective.
I don't know about 95% success rate, but I'd bet a lot of people think it has at least a 70% success rate.