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Re:Why I Left Rust by pdimitar on Sunday May 28, 2023 @11:07AM (#36104641)
You are generalizing. This is a very isolated incident, and one that I as a Rust dev am baffled about. It seems poorly handled by all sides involved.

Have in mind that 99.99% of Rust devs out there chose it on technical merits and couldn't care less about their internal infighting even if we were paid to care.

Re:Why I Left Rust by bbarnett on Sunday May 28, 2023 @12:29PM (#36105506)
You are generalizing

No, my statements about zealots in the rust community, are not generalizations. Rust has more zealots, than every other language combined.

Note, advocates are not the same as zealots.

Re:Why I Left Rust by pdimitar on Sunday May 28, 2023 @12:36PM (#36105580)
I'm skeptical. This incident in particular doesn't prove that Rust has more zealots.

Every single Rust dev I've worked with is a normal programmer who prioritizes merit and rational process.

If you're already unfriendly towards the Rust community then this incident will only deepen your bias. I urge you to not assess the community with this flawed thought process. Rust devs are like all others.

Re:Why I Left Rust by bbarnett on Sunday May 28, 2023 @01:23PM (#36105952)
This incident in particular doesn't prove that Rust has more zealots.

At no point did I claim it did.

If you're already unfriendly towards the Rust community

Where did I state this?

It seems you are touchy on this front. And it seems as if saying that the rust community has some zealots, upsets you.

Most other dev languages don't even have "communities".

Re:Why I Left Rust by gdcbe on Sunday May 28, 2023 @02:35PM (#36106558)
Pretty certain any widespread dev language has communities…
Re:Why I Left Rust by noisy_boy on Sunday May 28, 2023 @11:53PM (#36110477)
> Rust has more zealots, than every other language combined.

> And it seems as if saying that the rust community has some zealots, upsets you.

First saying "more than every other language combined" and then changing tone to say "some" is disingenuous. And please don't try to technically argue that the former doesn't have to more then the latter - the underlying insinuation is pretty obvious.

Re:Why I Left Rust by bbarnett on Monday May 29, 2023 @04:11AM (#36111833)
Had I wanted to say rust was only filled with zealots, I would have said so, instead of differentiating advocate from zealot.

Further, most languages barely have any advocates, let alone zealots. Rust is a massive outlier here.

My statement is accurate, valid, makes sense, and is predicated upon observation.

Re:Why I Left Rust by yawaramin on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @03:22PM (#36129318)
Yeah, it's an isolated incident just like all the other isolated incidents in Rust. Anyone remember the Rust Foundation trademark oopsie literally a month ago where the RF wanted to control in fine detail the usage of the name and logo?
Re:Why I Left Rust by pdimitar on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @03:26PM (#36129376)
Well I for one had no clue about it. Shows you how interesting the average dev feels such things are.
Re:Why I Left Rust by yawaramin on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @06:55PM (#36132238)
Yeah, unless they happen to be in the Rust community, or be Rust users or selling services related to Rust, etc. etc.
Re:Why I Left Rust by pdimitar on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @07:23PM (#36132527)
Not sure what you're saying, truthfully. Could you please clarify?

My point is the same: most people don't care (and I mean 99.99%; what we've seen in the last days is basically high school drama and no aduy takes such feuds seriously).

The only real danger is that strong contributors leave. We the working Rust devs could feel that at some point in the future.

But even that possibility isn't that scary. Rust is quite mature in many ways already. Most innovation happens in libraries at this point.