im not defending what russia does, i dont know why you think I am
> I'm surprised that you support razing cities to the ground, my guess given how supportive you are of this war is that you 100% backed Americans imperialistic invasions and razing of multiple cities in the middle east, after all they targeted military targets in a much more discerning manner then Russia ever did.
I think it is very very unkind of you to assume I support what russia, or anyone else for that matter, is doing
> And the truth comes out, you propagandist really need to get new lines, I understand now that your just another Russian supporter who's more then happy for Ukraine to be terror bombed into oblivion.
nothing could be further from the truth, I would prefer nobody kills eachother, but at the same time, I also dont want to get in the middle of what other people are doing in this case. but indeed, the truth does come out, and about a magnificent 100% of times everyone lies about war, why should I magically believe in what the governments that has a track record of total lies regarding the wars they want to fund/start/participate in says. THIS time its different, im sure....
> Yeah this all bullshit.
It is not. It is clearly a proxy war, and the list of things I gave would provide far more value to me, and I suspect many others. Why do you presume to think you have the right to my labour for YOUR causes?
For someone who isn't defending what Russia is doing you sure have a lot of the same opinions as the people who are thrilled about what Russia is doing.
> I think it is very very unkind of you to assume I support what russia, or anyone else for that matter, is doing
Then maybe you should act like it. Cause you certainly act like someone who 100% supports what Russia is doing.
> nothing could be further from the truth, I would prefer nobody kills eachother, but at the same time, I also dont want to get in the middle of what other people are doing in this case. but indeed, the truth does come out, and about a magnificent 100% of times everyone lies about war, why should I magically believe in what the governments that has a track record of total lies regarding the wars they want to fund/start/participate in says. THIS time its different, im sure....
I think the Ukrainians would prefer that too, but someone brought war to their land so they are responding.
To be neutral in a conflict between an aggressor and a defender, is to be inherently for the aggressor.
If someone was being raped on the street, surely you would do something (like call the police) you wouldn't just ignore it and walk away with "I also dont want to get in the middle of what other people are doing in this case" would you?.
> It is not. It is clearly a proxy war, and the list of things I gave would provide far more value to me, and I suspect many others. Why do you presume to think you have the right to my labour for YOUR causes?
You are probably paying less than 1.2% of your tax for America to help here, to help a country defend its borders from an incursion, to defend a countries people from a brutal attempted genocide, rape and torture.
I understand not caring about your neighbours and the "fuck you, got mine" attitude is very prevalent in America but this is a pretty extreme lack of caring about your fellow man.
i wouldnt know, but it is definitely possible to not like what is happening in Ukraine, whilst also finding the comedian dictator to be a disgrace, and simultaneously not want to fund any kind of fighting in ukraine.
> Then maybe you should act like it. Cause you certainly act like someone who 100% supports what Russia is doing.
Im sure there are many commonalities. You probably prefer to breathe air, so do I, and so does mr putin.. But please provide some concrete examples.
> To be neutral in a conflict between an aggressor and a defender, is to be inherently for the aggressor.
That is simply not correct, and I suspect you know that.
> If someone was being raped on the street, surely you would do something (like call the police) you wouldn't just ignore it and walk away with "I also dont want to get in the middle of what other people are doing in this case" would you?.
To mr putin: please stop attacking ukraine. to the UN: please tell putin my sentiments. to comedy dictator: "your" country is being attacked.
Okay, called police.
> I understand not caring about your neighbours and the "fuck you, got mine" attitude is very prevalent in America but this is a pretty extreme lack of caring about your fellow man.
Not from America, not in the US. You dont seem to understand that this issue is far far more complex than some random guy being attacked in the streets. Pretending anything else is at best ignorance. but even asserting your accusation of "fuck you, got mine" to be true, all that means is that you may accuse me of not caring about my neighbor, and while that isnt true, thats ALL. You went a fair bit further and accused me of supporting what goes on, not giving a shit about rape/torture/killing, and surely you must realize that this is an accusation that is completely unfounded, and a personal attack that probably stems from a very emotional and irrational anger towards anyone that does not do exactly what you feel must be done.
Heres a factoid: mr Putin has done less to harm me than people who would want me to pay for a war I am not involved in, Hell, you just accused me of supporting raping/torturing/killing innocents in the street. Putin has not done that to me.
So yeah, your personal attacks and insults have failed to sway me, and I remain with my original thoughts of staying out of it
Wow you’re towing a Russian propaganda line again. Surprise surprise you breaking out unsubstantiated claims about Ukraine to try and make them look bad to dissuade aid to them.
FYI if your no in America you’re likely not paying anything into this fight that makes any difference in anyway shape or form to your taxes.
> Im sure there are many commonalities. You probably prefer to breathe air, so do I, and so does mr putin.. But please provide some concrete examples.
Your post history is littered with talking points straight out of Russian propaganda, points that you continually raise with zero evidence.
> To mr putin: please stop attacking ukraine. to the UN: please tell putin my sentiments. to comedy dictator: "your" country is being attacked. Okay, called police.
The comedy dictator stuff is what really shows you for who you are. Where is any evidence of this at all? All you do is repeat Russian propaganda like a robot.
> Not from America, not in the US.
If you’re not from America that any aid to Ukraine likely makes up a tiny fraction of a percent of your tax.
> So yeah, your personal attacks and insults have failed to sway me, and I remain with my original thoughts of staying out of it
Unsurprised really just like how I’m sure if your where around during WW2 you would be waving your “why not peace with hitler” sign.
And what about when the Russians decide to park there weapons inside capture Ukrainian nuclear power plants, or when they decide to booby trap dead bodies, or booby trap houses and trees such that when civilians go back into the city they die.
> so you are saying they could in fact megabomb ukraine? okay
They have super limited supplies of this missiles and given how many they have already used in there limited but horrific damage to civilian life in Ukraine I don't think they are capable of doing it using long range precision weapons alone.
Not that, that would end the war anyway see the blitz during WW2, all that targeting civilians does is increase a countries resolve to fight the battle that they are already in, terror bombing regardless of who does it, does not really dissuade anyone.
I'm surprised that you support razing cities to the ground, my guess given how supportive you are of this war is that you 100% backed Americans imperialistic invasions and razing of multiple cities in the middle east, after all they targeted military targets in a much more discerning manner then Russia ever did.
> I'd rather pay for such here, than have the money to the nice dictator-comedian in Ukraine.
And the truth comes out, you propagandist really need to get new lines, I understand now that your just another Russian supporter who's more then happy for Ukraine to be terror bombed into oblivion.
> So yeah, I dont think its needed that I iterate more ideas, as there are clearly MANY, that are far far better to spend on, than this proxy war
Yeah this all bullshit. Its never been a proxy war except for those who tried to justify Russias imperialistic ambitions, maybe if they paid less to support propagandist like yourself and actually decided to invest in their military instead they may win, but alas here we are.
You sound like someone who would of campaigned for the Nazis to stop American involvement in WW2.