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Have you ever looked at stats re the Hmong American demographic?

I’m intimately aware of yellow privilege in police stops but would love to see the data on poor Asians being nearly three times more likely to escape poverty than poor whites round these parts.

I don’t think racists can tell the difference between Hmong and say Vietnamese: https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/vietnamese-immigrant...

Re: income mobility: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/21/17139300/e... (“Among children who grew up in the bottom fifth of the distribution, 10.6 percent of whites make it into the top fifth of household incomes themselves, as do 25.5 percent of Asian-Americans.”)

> You're much more likely to encounter someone with an Indian accent on Wall Street or in Silicon Valley than someone with an Appalachian accent.

Yes, because one of those groups is two orders of magnitude larger than the other in number and can't make it to Wall Street or Silicon Valley without a visa that is incredibly expensive to get and explicitly filters for the trifecta of wealth, income, and formal education. That doesn't invalidate racism against against them; it just means that you're not comparing apples to apples.

This is an incredibly disingenuous set of arguments you're trying to make, and you've been called out for it many times before - it's classic flamewar bait, which is against the site rules.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

You’re the one making disingenuous, anti-Asian arguments about selective immigration. That mostly happened after the H1B was created in 1990. But by the 1980 census, Chinese, Filipinos, Japanese, and Indians had already overtaken whites: https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED317464.pdf. Aside from some Indian doctors and engineers who came here in the 1970s, those are the descendants of working class Asian immigrants. Vietnamese and Koreans hadn’t yet overtaken whites as of 1980, being recent refugees at the time, but would do so within a generation.

And even today, most Asian immigrants aren’t H1Bs going to work at Google. Remember, family reunification is the primary method of immigration in the US. The folks in the Bangladeshi and Chinese enclaves in Queens aren’t wealthy. But statistics show that these poor Asians vastly outperform whites in economic mobility.

Literally the very first sentence of the link you cited contradicts what you're saying

> With heavy immigration fueled by U.S. immigration law changes in 1965 and the influx of over 700.000 Indochinese refugees since the Vietnam War ended in 1975, the number of Asian Americans grew from 1.4 million in 1970 to 3.5 million, 1.5 percent of the U.S. population, by the April 1980 census and an estimated 5.1 million, 2.1 percent of the U.S. total, as of September 30, 1985.

Please, stop. I don't know why you are doing this but you're not contributing positively to the site.

> Literally the very first sentence of the link you cited contradicts what you're saying

> With heavy immigration fueled by U.S. immigration law changes in 1965 and the influx of over 700.000 Indochinese refugees since the Vietnam War ended

Do you think those “Indochinese refugees” were affluent educated professionals?

The 1965 Act actually caused a decrease in the percentage of Asians working in high skill jobs: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/07/12/income-... (“The surge in Asian immigration followed the Immigration and Nationality Act in 1965, which favored family reunification, and the end to the war in Vietnam in 1975, which brought in a wave of refugees. One result was that the share of new Asian immigrants working in high-skill occupations decreased from 1970 to 1990, and the share working in low-skill occupations increased.”). It wasn’t until the 1990 H1B changes that this trend reversed.

But these low Asian groups nonetheless did well. In the 1970s, Vietnamese Americans had a poverty rate higher than black Americans. Today, they have a lower poverty rate and higher median income than white Americans.

> I don't know why you are doing this but you're not contributing positively to the site.

Why are you so invested in the myth that Asian Americans are successful in the US primarily because of selective immigration? Why do you want to erase the—well documented—experience of all the Asians who came to the US as refugees or based on family reunification and went from poverty to being middle class or affluent?

White guy immigrant in a "brown" African country here - Politicians doing anything for votes by stoking subtle hate, jealousy and in-group preferences in a voting population don't make a distinction when it comes to skin color, nationality of origin, religion, immigration status or wealth. Those are just convenient tools in their arsenal of divisiveness.