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Re:Ford EV Customers to Gain Access to 12,000 Tesla Supercha... by akira2501 on Friday May 26, 2023 @03:56AM (#36081323)
> This positions Tesla as an energy provider like Shell/Chevron.

And I was worried that the "green revolution" was going to be without rent seeking corporate greed getting involved. Yay?

Re:Ford EV Customers to Gain Access to 12,000 Tesla Supercha... by MrBuddyCasino on Friday May 26, 2023 @04:01AM (#36081344)
If there is no reward for making superior products, who will bother making them?
Re:Ford EV Customers to Gain Access to 12,000 Tesla Supercha... by akira2501 on Friday May 26, 2023 @04:22AM (#36081492)
There is. It's a patent. Those expire but Tesla gave it away before that anyways. So, I guess, Tesla?

Anyways.. the idea that selecting a plug would make you somehow positioned to be an "energy provider" ala Shell is just awful to me, let alone, but that anyone would seemingly be thrilled about that outcome brought out my sarcasm.

Re:Ford EV Customers to Gain Access to 12,000 Tesla Supercha... by MrBuddyCasino on Friday May 26, 2023 @08:46AM (#36083334)
A patent itself is not a reward, its a cost. The value you extract out of it can be valuable, which brings us back to square one: incentives.
Re:Ford EV Customers to Gain Access to 12,000 Tesla Supercha... by sib on Friday May 26, 2023 @11:24AM (#36085371)
A patent is an asset. An asset is anything that has present or future value to a company. So - being granted the patent is a reward for creating the invention and going through the process of filing the patent.
Re:Ford EV Customers to Gain Access to 12,000 Tesla Supercha... by akira2501 on Saturday May 27, 2023 @03:05PM (#36097290)
Right.. and Tesla threw those incentives away. So, are incentives the "end all and be all" of analysis? It seems like it isn't.
Re:Ford EV Customers to Gain Access to 12,000 Tesla Supercha... by jsight on Friday May 26, 2023 @10:35AM (#36084709)
I'm not sure what your point is here. Tesla positioned themselves as an "energy provider" by building a ton of locations.

The connector being better is a separate issue. Anyone else can adopt that if they choose to.

Re:Ford EV Customers to Gain Access to 12,000 Tesla Supercha... by akira2501 on Saturday May 27, 2023 @03:04PM (#36097285)
Tesla did not position themselves as an "energy provider" ala "Exxon." Exxon owns the _supply_ not the _distribution_. It's an entirely backwards analysis of the situation.

Anyone can buy land and sell electricity on it. You should look _forward_ to that market opportunity.. not stand around pretending that Tesla is the new Exxon. As if more "Exxon" like business are at all a good idea.