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Re:War Is a Racket (1935) by jnsie on Thursday May 25, 2023 @05:24PM (#36076425)
I must confess...I detest the phrase military-industrial complex while acknowledging that it was likely defined and definitely used by people much smarter than I. It's too abstract and sounds like a phrase your tinfoil-hat wearing conspiracy-theorist uncle would rant about. Would much rather we spoke in terms of real-world organizations (start with the big players and go from there) that benefit from forever wars...
Re:War Is a Racket (1935) by karaterobot on Thursday May 25, 2023 @05:35PM (#36076555)
The specific players change, though. You wouldn't call it (for example) the "Reagan-Raytheon Complex", since that's just a specific, temporary instance produced by a more systemic pattern of behavior. Even though the more specific framing seems more actionable, getting rid of those particular players would not solve the problem if the next set just did the same thing. So, it's actually more useful to think of this as a warning about systems rather than entities.
Re:War Is a Racket (1935) by __MatrixMan__ on Thursday May 25, 2023 @05:30PM (#36076507)
I've been thinking that we ought to stop using county names to refer to wars. Vietnam is a place, people live there, but when I hear its name I just think about how messed up my grandpa is because of his experiences in that war.

So I think that instead of "Afghanistan" we should call it "Lockheed's War" or something like that.

Re:War Is a Racket (1935) by all2 on Thursday May 25, 2023 @05:35PM (#36076554)
And Iraq would the be the Bush/Cheney/Haliburton War. I'm a fan of this naming convention.
Re:War Is a Racket (1935) by goodpoint on Thursday May 25, 2023 @05:39PM (#36076603)
War? Product placement campaign.
Re:War Is a Racket (1935) by jnsie on Thursday May 25, 2023 @09:56PM (#36078836)
I'm not sure if you're being serious but I like this a lot
Re:War Is a Racket (1935) by __MatrixMan__ on Friday May 26, 2023 @01:08PM (#36086911)
Totally serious.

If we must have wars, let them be remembered as a black mark on the names of the people who profited from them. A cautionary tale about how not to weild power.

On the flip side: I have no ill will towards the people of Iraq or Afghanistan or Vietnam, so I feel bad attaching a negative connotation to the name of their country. As if my tax dollars didn't do enough harm to their homes, now my speech is making it harder to let go of. Yuck.

I've been saying things like:

> The justification for Putin's war feels even flimsier than the justification for Cheney's war, but then again I'm not the target audience.

So far people just raise their eyebrows at me, but I like to imagine it'll catch on.

Re:War Is a Racket (1935) by nonethewiser on Thursday May 25, 2023 @06:13PM (#36076999)
Its a massive oversimplification driven by pessimism.
Re:War Is a Racket (1935) by rufus_foreman on Thursday May 25, 2023 @06:37PM (#36077295)
>> It's too abstract and sounds like a phrase your tinfoil-hat wearing conspiracy-theorist uncle would rant about

That's why it was so important that it come from someone like a 5 star general and Supreme Commander of the Allied Expeditionary Force in Europe during World War II. No one was going to mistake Eisenhower for a tinfoil-hat wearer, a pacifist, or an appeaser.

Re:War Is a Racket (1935) by jnsie on Thursday May 25, 2023 @09:55PM (#36078828)
While I completely agree I'm not sure how well known its origins are today, or will be in the future.