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Re:Ableton Push 3 by cageface on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @05:10AM (#36041766)
I find grid based systems like Ableton great for getting short loops together but making the jump to a finished track is a lot harder.

I have folders full of sketches I've built up in years of using it but very few things I'd call finished.

Re:Ableton Push 3 by siquick on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @07:09AM (#36042616)
What I do to get over this - as soon as I have an 8+ bar loop i like i paste it into Arrangement view so it fills up a 5 minute song, and then I start taking parts out. Gives me a basic “song” to start fleshing out.
Re:Ableton Push 3 by jcpst on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @08:47AM (#36043478)
I do something similar to this too- sometimes making 2-4 scenes and pasting some basic form in the arrangement.

From there, I see it the way a sculptor might see a slab of rock, and start “carving out” the song.

Re:Ableton Push 3 by bodge5000 on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @07:08PM (#36051978)
Funny enough I always found the opposite, I find Renoise great for making short loops but putting them together into a full track to be a pain, and then visa-versa with Ableton and software like it.

The OP-1 is where I've found this to be especially the case, incredibly easy to make a loop on but never managed to make a full song on it, aside from using mutes/effects on a single loop to stretch it out into a full track

Re:Ableton Push 3 by cageface on Friday May 26, 2023 @10:21PM (#36091490)
I found the OP 1 especially difficult for this. I never got used to the tape recording workflow. It's a pity because I really liked it otherwise.