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Re:Once a fringe theory, “greedflation” gets its due by toomuchtodo on Monday May 22, 2023 @04:16PM (#36036163)
> "If corporate profits were to decline from the extremely high levels that we saw recently, would it be possible to sustain" growth in workers' benefits "even as we get inflation down to the target of 2%?" Democratic Senator Chris Van Hollen asked Powell during the Fed chief's semi-annual testimony before the U.S. Senate Banking Committee.

> While that might be difficult in the long run, "over the shorter term though, yes," Powell said, dipping tentatively into a debate that may become more pointed over time depending on how inflation, the job market and the economy evolve.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/feds-powell-acknowledges-...

Re:Once a fringe theory, “greedflation” gets its due by octobus2021 on Monday May 22, 2023 @05:21PM (#36036895)
In the same article:

"Wages affect prices and prices affect wages," Powell said, associating current earnings growth to the current ultra-low unemployment rate of 3.4%, and suggesting the labor market may need to weaken at least somewhat for inflation to fall.

meaning that in his opinion inflation is driven by high employment, aka people spending money like crazy because they have more money that they know what to do with, and the solution is to make sure more people are out of work and with less funds to spend. Perfectly logical solution to producer-driven inflation I guess.

Re:Once a fringe theory, “greedflation” gets its due by toomuchtodo on Monday May 22, 2023 @05:44PM (#36037097)
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/21/why-economists-are-no-longer...

> The experts were worried about a so-called wage-price spiral. This occurs when workers expect inflation to keep rising, so demand — and achieve — higher salaries to keep up with price rises. Businesses then raise the prices of goods and services to cover higher labor costs, at the same time as workers have more disposable income to increase demand. This creates an inflationary loop, or in the language of economists, “second-round effects.”

> But while concerns this time around aren’t totally gone, what’s being discussed more frequently now is the fact that a wage-price spiral has not occurred in the 18 months or so that inflation has been running red-hot in much of the world.

> “What we’ve seen in the last year is prices rising very rapidly, but wages have not increased nearly as much, and that’s why we have a cost of living crisis,” Gourinchas said, after noting that core inflation remained high in many countries and in some cases was increasing.

> “We should expect wages to catch up eventually and people’s real income to recover,” he said. Real income refers to wages adjusted for inflation, reflecting changes in purchasing power.

> But the increase doesn’t present a risk because “the corporate sector has been sitting on pretty comfortable margins,” Gourinchas continued. Businesses’ revenues “have risen faster than costs, and so margins have room to absorb rising labor costs.”

Tangentially, Powell cannot destroy aggregate demand via the benchmark rate in a way that materially impacts the unemployment rate due to structural demographics. ~2 million people over the age of 55 die every year in the US. ~3 million Baby Boomers retire every year. 55+ workers clinging to the participation rate is holding a lot of this together.

https://www.barrons.com/articles/the-labor-market-bends-towa...

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4531829-older-workers-propp...

Re:Once a fringe theory, “greedflation” gets its due by octobus2021 on Monday May 22, 2023 @10:59PM (#36039267)
> “What we’ve seen in the last year is prices rising very rapidly, but wages have not increased nearly as much, and that’s why we have a cost of living crisis,” Gourinchas said, after noting that core inflation remained high in many countries and in some cases was increasing.

EXACTLY. Wages driving inflation my behind. If anything, businesses increasing prices cause other businesses (that purchase their goods) to increase their own prices. While most businesses manage to keep wages low (and increasingly laying off more and more staff). How is increasing unemployment rate supposed to tame the inflation in this scenario????????

Re:Once a fringe theory, “greedflation” gets its due by WalterBright on Monday May 22, 2023 @06:17PM (#36037389)
> "Wages affect prices and prices affect wages," Powell said

Ah, the old wage-price spiral theory of inflation, which is total bunk because it doesn't explain the increase in the money supply.

Inflation follows the increase in the money supply due to money creation by the Fed. It's in Powell's best interest to deny this.

Re:Once a fringe theory, “greedflation” gets its due by erur on Monday May 22, 2023 @09:00PM (#36038591)
Agree that the spiral as a core reason is total BS but for both the US and Europe it goes beyond just increasing the money supply.

Reducing the supply of goods/materials will have the same effect - even at a constant money supply.

In Europe the ECB/EU gov is hiding behind the War in Ukraine and global supply chain issues to hide what is mostly their own pandemic purchasing program and overspending driving massive inflation.

Then there's also their there's also sanctions, trade wars and over-regulation adding fuel to the fire.

Of course none of these are a "natural effect from market dynamics" - as much as they'd love to make it sound like that.