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Re:Meta Fined $1.3B Over Data Transfers to U.S. by SideburnsOfDoom on Monday May 22, 2023 @01:01PM (#36033908)
In order to collect, store and process data about people in the EU, you have to do so in a manner compliant with the EU law on that.

Collecting that data on a web page is a choice.

A semi-hidden security benefit of GDPR is that it makes people think twice before collecting and keeping data - you can't leak data that isn't in your database in the first place.

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Re:Meta Fined $1.3B Over Data Transfers to U.S. by scarface_74 on Monday May 22, 2023 @02:11PM (#36034679)
If I am talking to a group of friends some in the US over Facebook messenger. Should that be stored on EU servers?
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Re:Meta Fined $1.3B Over Data Transfers to U.S. by tchaffee on Monday May 22, 2023 @02:43PM (#36035130)
Sure. Or any country that complies with EU data protection and privacy laws.
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Re:Meta Fined $1.3B Over Data Transfers to U.S. by SideburnsOfDoom on Monday May 22, 2023 @03:37PM (#36035696)
You first asked "if I create any web page".

Now "Talking over Facebook messenger" is a complete change of subject.

It is on Facebook, not you, to operate Facebook messenger in a legal way.

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Re:Meta Fined $1.3B Over Data Transfers to U.S. by scarface_74 on Monday May 22, 2023 @05:50PM (#36037164)
How can Facebook both allow a user in the EU to send messages to a group of people in the US and not store data in the US?
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Re:Meta Fined $1.3B Over Data Transfers to U.S. by tchaffee on Monday May 22, 2023 @07:39PM (#36038092)
If you think it's technically impossible the burden of proof is on you.

Facebook has not claimed it's not technically possible.

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Re:Meta Fined $1.3B Over Data Transfers to U.S. by scarface_74 on Monday May 22, 2023 @08:28PM (#36038406)
Does it really take that much of a leap of logic that if EU person sends data to a person in the US, that data is going to be stored on a server in the US?
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Re:Meta Fined $1.3B Over Data Transfers to U.S. by SideburnsOfDoom on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @03:10AM (#36040925)
>Does it really take that much of a leap of logic that if EU person sends data to a person in the US, that data is going to be stored on a server in the US?

Yeah, it does. A person in the US is not a server in the US. It's an iPhone in the US, not a server.

Does it really take that much of a leap of logic to understand that the server doesn't have to be on the same continent as the user?

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Re:Meta Fined $1.3B Over Data Transfers to U.S. by tchaffee on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @11:57AM (#36046198)
That's not at all how it works. You're arguing against points where your understanding of the related technology is poor.
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Re:Meta Fined $1.3B Over Data Transfers to U.S. by SideburnsOfDoom on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @03:04AM (#36040885)
> How can Facebook Run their business in a legal way?

There's a word for businesses that are systemically unable to comply with the law.

I don't know if Facebook is one of those, but it might be. Shutting down is always an option for that kind of company. Nothing of vale would be lost.

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