Bakhmut Is Gone: An Aerial Look at the War’s Destruction

Re:Bakhmut Is Gone: An Aerial Look at the War’s Destruction by wsc981 on Monday May 22, 2023 @12:01PM (#36033132)

> Why are Russia wishes regarding who Ukraine allies with more important than Ukraine’s wishes?

In this regard I think so yes. For stability in the world it's a better situation.

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Re:Bakhmut Is Gone: An Aerial Look at the War’s Destruction by objektif on Monday May 22, 2023 @12:05PM (#36033179)

What are the wishes of Ukraine? Are you talking about Zelensky or People of Ukraine? Not very long ago US orchestrated a coup in the country so it is all meddled.

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Re:Bakhmut Is Gone: An Aerial Look at the War’s Destruction by wsc981 on Monday May 22, 2023 @12:09PM (#36033229)

Yes, it is all meddled. Victoria Nuland was one of the main orchestrators regarding the Ukraine coup, quite clear when hearing the leaked phone call in which see also stated "fuck the EU" (might help people find the audio when Googling).

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Re:Bakhmut Is Gone: An Aerial Look at the War’s Destruction by objektif on Monday May 22, 2023 @12:10PM (#36033254)

I am all aware but most people here are completely clueless and naive. So you will be tagged as a Russian spy unfortunately.

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Re:Bakhmut Is Gone: An Aerial Look at the War’s Destruction by lisasays on Monday May 22, 2023 @12:31PM (#36033547)

A spy, no. Just unfortunately living in the bubble of whatever blogs and other ideologically warped news sources you're reading.

No one in (mainstream) Ukrainian society believes in the "coup" or attaches any special significance to that allegedly pivotal and far-reaching Nuland exchange.

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Re:Bakhmut Is Gone: An Aerial Look at the War’s Destruction by objektif on Monday May 22, 2023 @05:23PM (#36036909)

Blogs? I am listening to experts instead of watching CNN and cheering for yet another war the US have pushed forward for.

Here is an example for your education:

https://www.mearsheimer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Why-t...

When you say No one again who are you speaking on behalf of? People of Donbas?

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Re:Bakhmut Is Gone: An Aerial Look at the War’s Destruction by lisasays on Monday May 22, 2023 @06:24PM (#36037462)

You know that just because some professor somewhere says something (in a way that makes it sound high-minded and respectable) -- that doesn't make it so, right?

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Re:Bakhmut Is Gone: An Aerial Look at the War’s Destruction by objektif on Monday May 22, 2023 @07:21PM (#36037952)

Correct and same applies to you me and everyone else. The bottom line is you are an idiot if you flat out deny the perspective of people who are more knowledgeable than you are on this topic.

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Re:Bakhmut Is Gone: An Aerial Look at the War’s Destruction by lisasays on Monday May 22, 2023 @09:39PM (#36038801)

I don't deny Mearsheimer's views on Ukraine at all. On the contrary, I believe we should let them stand for what they are - as a shining example of Orwell's famous mamxim:

    “One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe things like that: no ordinary man could be such a fool.”

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Re:Bakhmut Is Gone: An Aerial Look at the War’s Destruction by MichaelZuo on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @08:22AM (#36043262)

I think most passing readers would assess the likelihood of being the bigger fool relative to Mearsheimer not in your favour.

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