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Re:Don Knuth Plays with ChatGPT by samwillis on Saturday May 20, 2023 @01:09PM (#36013646)
I believe the parent is referring to "dichotomies in quality" that Don experienced in TFA as not going to go away, not the preceding example of a GPTism.

I would in general agree with the parent that the, as I like to call it, "convincing bullshit" will not go away. It's still there in GPT-4.

Re:Don Knuth Plays with ChatGPT by furyofantares on Saturday May 20, 2023 @01:18PM (#36013722)
I'm aware, they still posted an example of something that's already gone away. Many of Knuth's examples are also very noticeably better with GPT-4 and it's a shame it wasn't used, because some of the examples aren't.

Their post without the example stands well on its own IMO and is hampered by what is non-sequiter at best and misinformation at worse tacked onto the end.

Re:Don Knuth Plays with ChatGPT by permo-w on Saturday May 20, 2023 @04:18PM (#36015188)
the example given by the parent isn’t even an issue with GPT-3 or 3.5, never mind 4. it’s just a quirk of chatGPT. if you access any of the models via the API, you wouldn’t get this problem at all, because you control the system prompt
Re:Don Knuth Plays with ChatGPT by CamperBob2 on Saturday May 20, 2023 @02:19PM (#36014288)
It's still there in GPT-4.

There's less of it, though.

And only the first couple of time derivatives matter.

Re:Don Knuth Plays with ChatGPT by permo-w on Saturday May 20, 2023 @04:22PM (#36015218)
is it?

I can tell you for a fact that if I put "don’t use words like please, sorry, apologize, etc. speak plainly" in the gpt-4 (or 3 or 3.5) system prompt, it will not use those words in its completions

Re:Don Knuth Plays with ChatGPT by CamperBob2 on Saturday May 20, 2023 @04:51PM (#36015494)
I'm confused
Re:Don Knuth Plays with ChatGPT by permo-w on Saturday May 20, 2023 @05:39PM (#36015860)
maybe I misread your comment