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Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says by hattmall on Saturday May 20, 2023 @10:07AM (#36012038)
I'm fairly certain quite a few of them are still in jail without a trial yet right? At least for the January 6th participants.
Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says by eganist on Saturday May 20, 2023 @10:22AM (#36012155)
Stats as of March 25: https://www.npr.org/2023/03/25/1165022885/1000-defendants-ja...

Cases being pursued by the DoJ: https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases?combine...

Noteworthy that $2.6bln was allocated to US attorneys this year; not sure how much more was allocated to specifically support January 6th prosecutions, but the prosecution of every single one of them will hopefully serve as a deterrent.

Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says by j33zusjuice on Saturday May 20, 2023 @11:24AM (#36012677)
The prosecution of people that have been misled into acting against their own self interest will not resolve a single issue in this country. Until and unless we hold the leaders who incited the acts accountable, nothing can change. Nothing changes until Matt Gaetz, Jim Jordan, Marjorie Green, Lauren Boebert, Ted Cruz, Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, etc., are in prison for their roles.
Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says by AuthorizedCust on Saturday May 20, 2023 @11:40AM (#36012832)
You can’t imprison people for constitutionally protected speech. The citizenry has to reject these people and reject the anti-intellectualism ethos they and their supporters inhabit.
Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says by tyre on Saturday May 20, 2023 @11:59AM (#36013005)
Inciting violence is not constitutionally protected speech.
Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says by ethbr0 on Saturday May 20, 2023 @11:52AM (#36012945)
Deterrence has a role.

As you point out, it's not most efficient path to resolving differences in America, but I can't say that forcefully pushing through police lines, breaking windows, and illegally entering the Capitol should be allowed to happen without penalty.

People make their choices, and they pay the consequences -- they're not puppets completely devoid of individual agency.

But yes, it's endemic in current American culture that incitement goes unpunished while action takes the charge. In politics, in business, and in religion.

If we want to solve underlying problems, there need to be more disincentives to whipping your supporters/employees/believers into a frenzy.

Shared culpability seems a good start.

Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says by Jerrrry on Saturday May 20, 2023 @12:00PM (#36013008)
What about the prosecution of the law enforcement who literally unlocked doors, shepherded people inside, and then led them into chambers?

If you think Jan 6 was anything more than a meandering of useful idiots by a conspiring state, you are the other useful idiot.

Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says by dragonwriter on Saturday May 20, 2023 @12:13PM (#36013138)
> What about the prosecution of the law enforcement who literally unlocked doors, shepherded people inside, and then led them into chambers?

Several law enforcement and active military participants and collaborators—acting before, during, and after the highly visible events of Jan 6—have already been arrested and charged, most recently the MPD intelligence chief, but your description is a false characterization of what actually occurred.

> If you think Jan 6 was anything more than a meandering of useful idiots by a conspiring state, you are the other useful idiot.

If you genuinely believe this, you are just an idiot (maybe a useful one for the people who organized, executed, and then attempted to minimize the attack, but definitely an idiot.) Yes, most of the participants may have been radicalized sheep inspired and directed by a narrower group, but they clearly weren’t “meandering”.

Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says by goodSteveramos on Saturday May 20, 2023 @06:38PM (#36016298)
>Several law enforcement and active military participants

Stop conflating protestors who happened to have unrelated government jobs with the suspicious and supportive actions of the capitol police who were supposed to be keeping congress safe and instead escorted crazy looking protestors around the capitol for photoshoots

Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says by HyperSane on Saturday May 20, 2023 @12:53PM (#36013514)
And the man who instigated the whole thing is going to be allowed to run for President again!
Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says by goodSteveramos on Saturday May 20, 2023 @06:41PM (#36016312)
Yup. If all these useful idiot protestors are guilty of treason how the hell has their leader who told them to do it not been charged? The federal justice system is fake and political.
Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says by Nextgrid on Saturday May 20, 2023 @09:11PM (#36017083)
Not to mention all the bullshit social media platforms that promoted the stupid conspiracies that led to the insurrection and even profited off all the "engagement" around it.
Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says by asveikau on Saturday May 20, 2023 @11:29AM (#36012721)
I wonder if some of those people will now support bail reform.
Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says by vuln on Saturday May 20, 2023 @12:48PM (#36013475)
Bail isn’t even an option when you’re detained for the reasons they are.