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Re:Visa and Mastercard agree to lower average credit card in... by Symbiote on Friday May 19, 2023 @07:06AM (#36000167)
Many of the large American companies involved in payments (Visa, MasterCard, Stripe, Square, PayPal) also operate in Europe, and implement the modern security practices required here. 2FA for credit/debit payments made online, for example, and chip payments since... 2004 or something.
Re:Visa and Mastercard agree to lower average credit card in... by rhaway84773 on Friday May 19, 2023 @07:34AM (#36000456)
American payment systems are shockingly outdated and have been so for decades.
Re:Visa and Mastercard agree to lower average credit card in... by mercutio2 on Friday May 19, 2023 @11:47AM (#36003315)
Just because things are different doesn’t mean they’re “outdated”.

The optimal amount of fraud is not zero. Merchants, and consumers, both benefit from the equilibrium where there is much more commerce, backstopped by bank fraud detection.

Credit card fraud is just not a large problem in the US, and the extra commerce encouraged by continuing to use a relatively insecure system generally outweighs the benefits of tightening security.

Tokenized NFC payments are even more convenient than swiping credit cards, and they’re gradually replacing the old system, but there is no urgency here.

Re:Visa and Mastercard agree to lower average credit card in... by petre on Friday May 19, 2023 @11:39AM (#36003211)
Stripe and Paypal are annoying. They refuse payments with virtual debit cards, debit cards issued in other jurisdiction than your shipping (or IP?) address, etc. I'm usually put off when I see a Stripe or Paypal checkout screen.