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Re:Visa and Mastercard agree to lower average credit card in... by KevinBenSmith on Friday May 19, 2023 @02:55AM (#35998634)
Why should there even be something like cash back or points programs? These programs are taking money from the merchant and giving it to the end-consumer, while the middle-men keep a cut.

I believe a world without these programs (or as you said “watered-down” versions) is more fair for the merchant and others shoppers not using such cards. Especially if the merchant is not allowed to charge the end-consumer with this added fee.

Re:Visa and Mastercard agree to lower average credit card in... by vineyardmike on Friday May 19, 2023 @04:11AM (#35999153)
The programs don’t take money from the merchants - they raise their prices to cover the fees.

The reality is that they exist largely because the people earning the points aren’t paying the bills. Most CC Rewards programs target the professional class of travelers - people who travel for work where the employer pays the bill. It’s essentially taking from consulting companies’ clients to give to the employees.

Re:Visa and Mastercard agree to lower average credit card in... by robjan on Friday May 19, 2023 @06:33AM (#35999939)
They would exist without the interchange fees. The money is coming from revolvers, not the merchants or interchange