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Re:One million cancel broadband as living costs rise (UK) by CydeWeys on Thursday May 18, 2023 @01:35PM (#35991419)
This sounds like an outlier though, no? The overall averages there are much lower.

Also everyone I know in tech over here is making much more than that still.

Re:One million cancel broadband as living costs rise (UK) by xzel on Thursday May 18, 2023 @02:14PM (#35991925)
That thats the case for the US as well. The average salary for US software dev, according to glassdoor, is 88,395/year, which iirc is about the same I've seen form other sources. Everyone working in FAAG is an outlier compared to the rest of the US. These conversations are usually pretty poor because context is very important and job + location + circumstance is seemingly pretty much impossible to compare to each other.
Re:One million cancel broadband as living costs rise (UK) by BadTakeAbove on Thursday May 18, 2023 @02:27PM (#35992112)
Not really. You have to compare the equivalent rarity between the two countries. He's describing a 99th percentile income in the UK. The 99th percentile income in the US is $350K. It's not even close.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/charting-income-distribu...

Re:One million cancel broadband as living costs rise (UK) by xzel on Thursday May 18, 2023 @04:51PM (#35993869)
Thanks for the link I guess... I'm not sure why this data is anymore useful alone, like I said, in a discussion about cost of living without cost of health care, taxes, etc. Your response perfectly illustrates my previous point, that having a discussion about an incredibly nuanced and specific comparison for cost of living (look at the post title) is made difficult by people who just say "Look at this thing here, it means I'm right! All I need to prove my point about cost of living is X". Man, I love throw away accounts.
Re:One million cancel broadband as living costs rise (UK) by OkayPhysicist on Thursday May 18, 2023 @05:33PM (#35994383)
I spent a while when I was trying to find a job trying to comes to terms with that "average dev salary" number, since the vast majority of jobs for an entry level position were at least 80k, with plenty being more (I was looking nationwide, wanted to move out, didn't care where). I think it's heavily biased by the fact that the field is growing at an extremely fast rate relative to others, which means the average software dev has dramatically less experience than an average, say, accountant.

So when looking at salary figures, the only sane way of doing it is to control for experience level, otherwise the variance in the explosive growth of the industry will dominate your results.

Re:One million cancel broadband as living costs rise (UK) by Hermitian909 on Thursday May 18, 2023 @09:59PM (#35996886)
HN's conception of software developer is just very different from the labor bureau. Someone who makes wordpress sites, knows a little html, css, and teensy amount of javascript is a software developer.

These folks do not actually earn a great wage because they know less than what many bootcamp grads come out of a 12 week program with, but they exist in multitudes.

Re:One million cancel broadband as living costs rise (UK) by OkayPhysicist on Friday May 19, 2023 @02:00PM (#36004957)
Yeah, this seems to be a stronger contender. The median income for someone with a CS bachelors in the US is $110,417, which is a much more believable number for what I would consider a software developer.
Re:One million cancel broadband as living costs rise (UK) by 908B64B197 on Friday May 19, 2023 @11:56AM (#36003436)
To be fair, the average salary for hospital worker is quite different than the average salary for neurosurgeon. Yet both work in healthcare at a hospital.