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Re:Optimization Without Derivatives: Prima Fortran Version a... by quickthrower2 on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @08:42AM (#35961065)
I assume backprop is still most efficient for the neural net itself, rather than one of these algorithms? I am doing a course and I am aware that there are other algorithms than gradient descent but haven’t seen the details yet on that.

I know things like cross entropy loss are designed to be easy to differentiate and probably more efficient to do that than something that approximates it.

Re:Optimization Without Derivatives: Prima Fortran Version a... by efavdb on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @08:45AM (#35961096)
Yeah, backprop gives efficient gradient calcs to train at a given net architecture. To find the best architecture though people try various other methods, eg random search or Gaussian processes, which don’t evaluate derivatives wrt architecture Params.