Re:'Third places': The ways losing our local haunts hurts us...
by zo1 on Monday May 15, 2023 @03:35AM
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Honestly, the general feeling I get from people is that such public places are dangerous esp for families with kids. And it makes sense. If you aren't policing and controlling bad group behaviour, then people lose trust in such a thing being possible and simply avoid it entirely. I know I would if I ever visited America or any of the immigration-heavy EU cities.
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Re:'Third places': The ways losing our local haunts hurts us...
by camgunz on Monday May 15, 2023 @05:29AM
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I can't speak for other cities but I live in a relatively immigrant-heavy area in a relatively immigrant-heavy city (Bos en Lommer, Amsterdam) and our parks are paradises. There's a nice kid pool and everything.
I think it's just an issue of community. Like, evidently our community likes having nice stuff our kids can use.
Re:'Third places': The ways losing our local haunts hurts us...
by Moldoteck on Monday May 15, 2023 @06:22AM
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it's quite the opposite: a nicely designed park/other place is more secure due to 'public control' (it's harder to do illegal stuff where there are many people watching and are against this). If public space is poorly designed, it'll be uncomfortable for kids/parents/teenagers and will attract marginalized people, like a space that looks shady, hard to reach and has design for gathering of drinking people
Also it depends of city strategy> having marginalized only buildings/areas is a bad idea, that's why in states like baltics, social apartments(the new ones) are not separate full buildings, but just apartments spread evenly across the city, contributing to diluting concentration of marginalized people in one spot and 'social control' keeps these regions safe