Ah, I had forgotten about Thonny. For a while it seemed like they weren't keeping up with Python versions.

Hmmm... even after just a few minutes, I'm impressed. I prefer to use beginner tools for my own work, even though I'm actually quite experienced, because it gives me a chance to familiarize myself with the things that I would actually recommend to beginners.

Also, it reminds me of another thing, which is that not just the language but also the tooling, can be a source of abstraction and frustration.