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Re:What Wikipedia Did by hayst4ck on Sunday May 14, 2023 @03:16AM (#35936034)
I don't donate to Wikipedia because they need money. I donate to Wikipedia because I think they are a force for good in this world and I don't believe there is such a thing as a free lunch.

Wikipedia is an institution that has improved my life and I think that deserves investment.

Re:What Wikipedia Did by z_open on Sunday May 14, 2023 @03:18AM (#35936045)
I think it does a lot of harm along with the good. They don't seem to enforce much for policies that bias any article that's non-technical. Also they redonate a lot of donated money, some of which goes to some dubious places. I would think that's reason enough to not donate.
Re:What Wikipedia Did by hayst4ck on Sunday May 14, 2023 @03:38AM (#35936130)
Truth is biased. I am OK with someone taking a stand on what the truth is and the fact there are meta discussions on what the truth is is reassuring. If someone thinks Taiwan is a part of China, they are going to feel like an authoritative source of information describing Taiwan as a sovereign country is "harmful."

Fascist ideology doesn't want the idea of truth to exist and Wikipedia weighing in and saying "this is the best approximation of truth we got" is a small but powerful assault against fascist ideology.

The purpose of free speech is to protect speaking truth to power. If there is no conception of what truth is then how can one speak truth to power?

"Dubious donations" seems like the epitome of FUD.

Re:What Wikipedia Did by z_open on Sunday May 14, 2023 @03:44AM (#35936162)
Every nontechnical article is full of selective quotes, from borderline random people, which have no place in an encyclopedia. An encyclopedia has facts. That's not what Wikipedia even tries to do. If it wasn't auch a great source for the sciences I would be ok with it going away.
Re:What Wikipedia Did by doctor_eval on Sunday May 14, 2023 @06:27AM (#35936922)
> That's not what Wikipedia even tries to do

I think it’s exactly what Wikipedia tries to do. But given the scale of things its not going to get it right every time.

Re:What Wikipedia Did by Bran_son on Sunday May 14, 2023 @11:30AM (#35938716)
> Fascist ideology doesn't want the idea of truth to exist

Fascism:

Science must respect the dignity and rights of all humans [..] In some cases, however, potential harms to the populations studied may outweigh the benefit of publication. - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-022-01443-2

Science Must Not Be Used to Foster White Supremacy [..] For another thing, scientists must do some soul-searching about why they are so motivated to look for evidence that traits like intelligence or propensity to violence are written in our genes, or that they would be different for people in different racial groups. - https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/science-must-not-...

The National Institutes of Health now blocks access to an important database if it thinks a scientist’s research may enter “forbidden” territory. - https://www.city-journal.org/nih-blocks-access-to-genetics-d...

Re:What Wikipedia Did by ianvisits on Sunday May 14, 2023 @03:26AM (#35936083)
"some of which goes to some dubious places."

As Wikipedia would say... [citation neeeded].

Re:What Wikipedia Did by 0l on Sunday May 14, 2023 @03:43AM (#35936152)
Things like this, for example: https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2021/09/08/wikimedia-fo...

If users support these organisations, they can donate directly, especially given that most Wikimedia donors have no idea their money is not being spent on Wikipedia itself.

Re:What Wikipedia Did by bawolff on Sunday May 14, 2023 @03:54AM (#35936194)
I wasn't a fan of those grants but it was a one time thing they did that was a relatively small portion of their budget.
Re:What Wikipedia Did by komali2 on Sunday May 14, 2023 @04:51AM (#35936458)
What is dubious about Arab Reporters for Investigative Journalism (ARIJ), the Borealis Philanthropy Racial Equity in Journalism Fund, Howard University School of Law and the Institute for Intellectual Property and Social Justice (IIPSJ), InternetLab, STEM en Route to Change (SeRCH) Foundation, or the Media Foundation of West Africa? I've poked around to each of them and haven't found any scandals. Do you just not like the values of these organizations? I wouldn't think "dubious" is the right word then. Also, if you didn't like their values, it doesn't make sense to donate to wikipedia, an organization that implements the same values.
Re:What Wikipedia Did by akolbe on Monday May 15, 2023 @03:16AM (#35944743)
According to tax forms just released last week, the outgoing Wikimedia CEO Katherine Maher got $623,286 in severance pay in 2021:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/1/14/Wikim...

She made a total of $798,632 that year.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/1/14/Wikim...

Another manager who had been there for less than two-and-a-half years got $324,748 in severance, more than 100% of her salary in her last full year of employment ...

Discussion on the Wikimedia mailing list:

https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@list...

Re:What Wikipedia Did by akolbe on Monday May 15, 2023 @03:44AM (#35944934)
Also, $100 million have gone into an "Endowment" that has never to this day, in nearly a decade of existence, published audited accounts. Report in Wikipedia's community newspaper:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2...

Promises have been made for years that the Endowment, held by the Tides Foundation, would "soon" be registered as a separate 501c3 nonprofit org and start filing public accounts ... still hasn't happened.

Re:What Wikipedia Did by komali2 on Sunday May 14, 2023 @04:52AM (#35936469)
> I think it does a lot of harm along with the good.

You said "also they redonate..." so you seem to consider that a separate issue. Thus, what "harm" have you found wikipedia to have done, specifically?

Re:What Wikipedia Did by hgsgm on Sunday May 14, 2023 @06:33PM (#35941959)
Donations don't pay the authors and editors.
Re:What Wikipedia Did by tivert on Monday May 15, 2023 @02:10AM (#35944399)
> I don't donate to Wikipedia because they need money. I donate to Wikipedia because I think they are a force for good in this world and I don't believe there is such a thing as a free lunch.

If you donate to an organization that doesn't need the money, you might as well assume that money will be wasted on something with the similar societal benefit as a party full of hookers and blow.