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Re:Rust hello world app for Windows 95, cross-compiled from ... by moonchrome on Saturday May 13, 2023 @05:38PM (#35933014)
> How did we get to the current state of software?

You mean how did we get to a point where :

- I don't have to mash Ctrl+s because software crashers constantly

- segfaults are not a daily occurrence

- any random executable can't crash the OS (hell modern windows can survive a GPU driver crash)

- I can use the internet relatively safely

- I don't need to restart my device after every install

etc. ?

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Re:Rust hello world app for Windows 95, cross-compiled from ... by HeladeraDragon on Saturday May 13, 2023 @05:55PM (#35933172)
Completely agree. Modern software is so much better than old software. Fuck the "ooh it runs on 100MB of RAM" I don't fucking care. All I care about is that it's so much more reliable than before, I can actually get my shit done now.
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Re:Rust hello world app for Windows 95, cross-compiled from ... by FeistySkink on Saturday May 13, 2023 @06:02PM (#35933226)
On rare occasions that I have to boot Windows to run some government-compatible software on a 32-core, 64GB RAM and I-don't-even-care-to-check-how-fast SSD, I have to listen to it firing on all cilinders while Defender fights Malicious Software something and Windows Updates while I'm typing some text in a barely responsive page. Truly getting my shit done.

Edit: Forgot all the random software doing auto updates and notifying me about it as I go.

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Re:Rust hello world app for Windows 95, cross-compiled from ... by moonchrome on Saturday May 13, 2023 @06:44PM (#35933527)
That's the price of living in a world where you're connected to the internet by default - a huge amount of performance goes towards security (sandboxing/scanning/rules). Windows 9x didn't even have a firewall FFS.

Windows has to chose defaults for a huge audience, if you daily drove it it would probably just work. Way better than 95 would.

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Re:Rust hello world app for Windows 95, cross-compiled from ... by badsectoracula on Saturday May 13, 2023 @09:56PM (#35934649)
> if you daily drove it it would probably just work

More like, "if you daily drove it you'd get used to all the awfulness".

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Re:Rust hello world app for Windows 95, cross-compiled from ... by moonchrome on Sunday May 14, 2023 @02:45AM (#35935882)
No, you can add defender exceptions/disable it and updates are staggered.
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Re:Rust hello world app for Windows 95, cross-compiled from ... by yobbo on Sunday May 14, 2023 @06:31AM (#35936943)
Eh, no. Linux and bsd had process isolation and ran packet-filtering with little effort on contemporary hardware.

You should also be aware that early android/ios phones did all this in "modern times" on limited hardware by today's standards.

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Re:Rust hello world app for Windows 95, cross-compiled from ... by hulitu on Sunday May 14, 2023 @01:47PM (#35939796)
> > How did we get to the current state of software?

> You mean how did we get to a point where :

> - I don't have to mash Ctrl+s because software crashers constantly

Office 365 would like to dissagree. Not constantly but not reliable either.

> - segfaults are not a daily occurrence

Just because Teams just dies without writing something on the console.

> - any random executable can't crash the OS (hell modern windows can survive a GPU driver crash)

Yes, but a docking station is the last straw. Power management on USB is hard.

> - I can use the internet relatively safely

Relatively

> - I don't need to restart my device after every install

But after every update ...

> etc. ?

We are living on a planet that's revolving and evolving ...

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